W's war

[Ron G]

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(Unlike you I do not believe in living off the sacrifices of others.)<br /> Your here because of saccrifices of the ones before you.

 

[txswinner]

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Ron G, I stand corrected on that, but when it came my turn to sacrifice I made a decision to sacrifice rather than run or stay behind, play chickenhawk or shoot off my mouth about fighting a war with other peoples lives.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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TXS, stop damaging the country with your agitator talk- Don't you know that by posting here you will bring the country to its knees with your Bush/Cheney bashing? <br />Actually, I could not agree more....<br />We will be blamed for everything gone awry in Iraq regardless of who started what, because we started it by taking out Saddam...We make up the "plan" as we go.....<br />It will be interesting to see what the "plan" will be as Iraq starts its inevitable slide into civil war, the rumblings of which have already begun.....<br />Maybe the borders will be sealed when the U.N. is forced to become actively involved, (READ): Troops!<br />JK

 

[txswinner]

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EDit that, should not be defending myself but do agree with living off others before me sacrifices. My Dad, uncles, cousins, Granddad and probably yours as well gave a great deal when they fought a war the US did not start.

 

[NOSLEEP]

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txswinner. I was to young to serve in the Vietnam war.<br />Although I have Friends that did volunteer and served in<br />Vietnam for as many as two terms. Yes they are Canadian <br />born and raised.I also have met quite a few draft<br />dodgers on the coast and in the interior of British Columbia.<br />I am from a generation that has not had to deal with a personal sacrifice<br />of war and death. This however does not cloud my perception of <br />reality and sacrifice. I have lost family to the ravages of war.<br />And know well what the price of freedom has and will cost in the future.<br />Ones economic health has nothing to do with ones<br />mentality and delusion. Those are mostly self inflicted when you take <br />your sight off your purpose.<br />I, like yourself and others are living off the <br />sacrifices of those who came before us. <br />And thank God for the good and steadfast participants<br />who carry the weight of you and I with them on the battle field today.

 

[txswinner]

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Dog, Me over and over, How can any blind supporter of W say that to anyone. Before he forced us into Iraq, we WMD,WMD over and over and over. Now it is we have a plan, and the latest I love "Duh, I did not know." As I stated you and W are lost.

 

[rickyp52]

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The war in Iraq was a terrible mistake. I'm not quite sure how we end our presence there, if we ever can. The idea that they will somehow transform themselves into a democracy is a Bush pipe dream. The religious and ethnic factions that make up Iraq have been fighting for thousands of years and will continue to do so. It seems they are on the verge of civil war now. I don't know how we can ever extricate ourselves from this quagmire.<br /><br />I would have much preferred a strategy that sought out the terrorist cells and training camps worldwide and remove them in a much more surgical manner. Do any of you honestly think that the war in Iraq has made us any safer from a terrorist attack here at home? Terrorists who want to harm us here at home live all over the world, not just in Iraq. The hundreds of billions of dollars spent on the war in iraq would have been much better spent on the manpower and technology necessary to make our own borders safer. <br /><br />I remember vividly after 9/11 the discussions that went on as to how we could make our country more safe from attack. And W's response to all of the ideas were that they were just too expensive and would raise the budget deficit to unacceptable levels. I guess a trillion dollar war, with no end in sight, where 2,000 or more American lives are lost (with many more to come) was an acceptable alternative to him.

 

[KaGee]

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Originally posted by JB:<br /> I don't for the life of me understand those who use that liberty to complain about the price.

It's the current American mentality JB. We want everything cheap, we want it now, and we don't want to get dirty getting it.<br /><br />Look at how many brave young men died in one day on Omaha Beach.

 

[rickyp52]

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The terrorists are not a threat to our "liberty". The war in Iraq is not being fought to maintain our liberty. Neither was Viet Nam. That's why there is and was so much opposition to both of these wars.

 

[KaGee]

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For the record, we lost over 3000 good young men on Omaha Beach.

 

[NOSLEEP]

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Rickyp52 says<br />"Do any of you honestly think that the war in Iraq has made us any safer from a terrorist attack here at home?"<br /><br />Yes it sure does. They are on the defensive in their home land. If your going to have a conflict<br />it would be a heads up play to have it their.<br />Better their than in your back yard, with your<br />head stuck in the sand.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Originally posted by rickyp52:<br /> The terrorists are not a threat to our "liberty". The war in Iraq is not being fought to maintain our liberty. Neither was Viet Nam. That's why there is and was so much opposition to both of these wars.

I don't post much in these threads, but after I seen this, I had to respond.<br />ricky, who do you think hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and flew that plane into the ground, NUNS?<br /><br />They were terriosts and they did effect our liberty, you think the one's that died had their liberty effected?<br /><br />Yea they did.<br /><br />As far a txwinner goes, ron & dog are spot on.<br />I'm done.

 

[rickyp52]

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Hitler and the Japanese were threats to our liberty. <br /><br />I'd like to ask all you guys who support the war in Iraq a couple of questions. Is this just the first of many wars that need to be fought in the middle east? How will you define victory? When all middle east countries are democracies? When all the Muslim extremists are dead? When all Muslims are dead? cause it's really difficult to distinguish the extreme ones from the regular ones.

 

[NOSLEEP]

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Victory will be defined by the end of the threat to<br />our security. And way of life.

 

[rickyp52]

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Then the the only logical conclusion I can come to, given the path that W and his supporters have chosen for dealing with the terrorist threat, is that we will have to kill each and every Muslim alive in the world today, and never allow islam to be practiced as a religion again. <br /><br />Please understand that I am not advocating this, but it seems to me this is the only way W's plan will work.

 

[eeboater]

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Ricky... what happens tomorrow when a terrorist blows up a grade school in Canton, MI?<br /><br />Would you still be against stopping terrorism?<br /><br />Oh... wait... thats right, we haven't been attacked by terrorists again have we? Hmm... I wonder if that is because President Bush (a.k.a. W for all you who prefer not to refer to our president properly) took a stance that noone else would. I'm sure kissing their a**es would have gotten real far. <br /><br />Peace. HA. Peace my rear patoot. <br /><br />They do not want peace, they want us DEAD! Why can't you figure that out? I don't know about you, but I like the fact that my heart still beats. Check out the "peaceful" actions they are taking because of those stupid cartoons. Give me a break.<br /><br />And you can be deluded in thinking that Iraq didn't have any terrorists... didn't help terrorists... didn't do any of that crap. But you know what? You don't believe there were ever WMDs... why? Because they can't produce them. Funny, terrorists are blowing crap up all over the place over there...

 

[NOSLEEP]

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Better to have a plan of offense and resistance.<br />Than no plan at all.<br />The Islamic revolution we are experiencing today<br /> must be dealt with. If the entire Muslim populace<br /> does not revolt against its tyranny, then yes<br />a lot of blood will be shed.

 

[rickyp52]

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eeboater...for you to insinuate that I am against stopping terrorism is simply wrong. If you have read what I posted previously you would see that this is very far from what I said. I fully support hunting down and killing all terrorists. I just don't agree with the plan that our government has chosen. <br /><br />And I hardly think that the explosives the terrorists are using to kill our troops in Iraq could be classified as WMD's. That's got to be one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard. WMD's produce mushroom clouds (as Condie Rice so ably described in support of the invasion).

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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WMD's comes in different shapes and sizes ricky, don't have to be nuclear.

 

[oddjob]

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TXS I bet as a child you got picked on or beat up daily...sorry about that...must have been painful. Hey but now your all growed up and finally gettin some pay-back. Post offensive BS two ,three times a day and then insult or attack those who disagree. Didnt you call the FBI on someone awhile back?....are you safe now?... The internet is a wonderful friend for some folks without, eh?. <br /><br />I bet you dont insult folks in public like you do here....do ya!....dont lie...you wouldnt be here buzzing like the knat that you are if you ever did I'm sure. <br /><br />FYI- this is an observation not a threat! so dont go harasing W's FBI, they got better things to do ....never mind I'm sure the FBI has your number blocked by now..