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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    So I didn't do much today other than bust out some foam. I also basically answered my questions above seeing how the boat is currently constructed lol. Very clear picture with no foam. Only interesting thing, Transom appears to be a 1inch sheet of ply full width, with a 1/2 inch lamination...
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    Whats the deal with "High Milage" conventional and synthetic motor oils???/

    Without working for the company, it is really hard to say exactly what the difference is but... typically different or more detergents and in a lot of cases the viscosity is a little on the higher side for it's stated weight among some things.... You will notice most of the high mileage oils...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Got a question for all you... I am sitting at my desk at work right now. Quiet day, have the trainee doing his first bit of solo work so I am taking a step back for a bit. I am trying to develop my layup schedule and by doing that, estimating my materials to order. I also have been doing more...
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    cooking

    I made some 35lbs of chicken sausage the other night. Ground, stuffed, packed. We did roasted garlic and feta, buffalo chicken, and Hawaiian. Other than that, this thread has given me a lot of things to try. I love it.
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Maybe a pole up in under the dash as precaution?
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    That bow has actually been there for some 25 years. It's one of those things I'd like to address but see no real good way of doing so. The starboard side is the better of the two, the port is actually quite low if you look at the shot. I'm afraid of causing stress cracks by jacking it up as it's...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    The lumber in mine is pretty rough on the one side. I plan on putting it back as it was, so 3/4 ply for the centers and 3/4 lumber for the outside. Though, if I have the extra ply I may just use that outside as well.... We'll see. I agree about the tank. Just don't want to cause any issues...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    So I got brave today. I didn't get quite as far as I wanted to but still good progress... See bottom of post for some thoughts. Couple shots of how the bulk head installs for future reference... Bulk heads are out. Note the deck sag. Trying to figure out if this is worth trying to fix. It has...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Just an update, I reached out to our vendor and he quoted me ~55$ a sheet for 3/4" ACX outdoor wood. That's reasonable and probably what I'll go with. I also Got everything braced today. May have went overkill but she doesn't move at all now. Also discovered there are 4 total stringers in the...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Key west makes a nice boat. My friend had a scout in that size, similar boat overall. It was very nice but way way out of my price range. At some point pleasure boats shifted from pleasure boats to lake boats. That's all that four winns is good for. It wouldn't make it through the canal without...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    My thoughts exactly. That was a thought too. We have a good working relation with a local lumber yard and we use a higher ply count exterior ply to build our cement forms. They are always nice straight and dried. I plan on looking into what they are actually rated at on an invoice and may just...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Didn't do much this weekend. My girl celebrated her 7th birthday (leap day baby lol). So we lowered the front blocking and tarped in the boat so demolition doesn't fill the whole garage with dust. I have to ask, if I use a 4 foot straight edge on the chines and block the outside chine every 3...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    My next working day is going to be cradle and brace the boat then bust out the floor and foam. Day after that will be stringers. Then transom. Some point in there I'll grab wood. I'm also going to place an order for glass supplies. Seems US composites is the most reasonable though I have a few...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Didn't do a ton today but got the carpet out. Looks like it'll need everything. Transom seems pretty good but there are spots that aren't. My question is, would you replace the bad or just gut and redo the whole transom? I don't think too many peeps are dropping in but figured I would ask. I...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    So I did a little more today. Goal was get all the old carpet out... I didn't do that but I did get the fuel tank out so that's a plus. The bad? Well, since I was able to core sample the bottom of the stringers I did... and... nothing. Now there was no delamination or anything through most of...
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    It does seem like the complete uncut pile does do better with not holding moisture. You can see there is a pretty noticeable difference between the two in the photo. It also helps with wear and tear...
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    Manifolds (Trying to figure out what I am looking at)

    I spent the first few years of my life there. That's where dad was originally from. We used to run out of tanner Park on the great south bay. Dad used to run out of the power plant before I was around on occasion on north shore. He had some friends up there.
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    See, that looks much better with nonskid imo.
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    Manifolds (Trying to figure out what I am looking at)

    So based on your reports, I'd say I'm looking g pretty good being a fresh rebuild. I also was expecting elevated sodium being I boat 99% of the time in the salt. I always forget you are on LI no?
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    My 84 4winns horizon 195 project.

    Which is why I'll still be cutting and assessing. If I cut and drill test holes that are good up front then I'm leaving that alone depending on what I find further back underneath. But yes, proper assessment needs to be done still. I have a love hate with it. The thing is 40 years old at this...
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