'67 Starcraft Islander with way too many parts taken off it.

[Huron Angler]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Yup, the pumps will make your life a whole bunch easier. 1:3, piece of cake!

Even easier...clarkcraft is 1:1 ratio for those of us that are "mathematically challenged"

 

[GLG fishing]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Hey Kelly, I had some corrosion like that on my hull. It was where the hull sat on the trailer bunks. This is what I did on my boat. I cleaned the area up with an ss wire wheel and made a patch from some scrap aluminum. I pre-drilled the patch and the hull for rivets. I then mixed up some jb-weld and applied it to the patch and hull. Stuck everything together and riveted it place. I did this a few years ago and I intent on replacing the patch to the inside when I change the floor. So far the patch has worked as expected. In your case you would be able to put your patches on the inside. You may not even need to rivet them in place as long as the bond between the hull and the patch is good. I think the key here would be to clean the affected area and get some jb-weld in the corrosion area to stop further corrosion.
GLG

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Thanks for the idea GLG, I was wondering what to do as far as that corrosion went. Yea the deck is up and the hull has been cleaned fairly well I think. So would you patch the boat hull in all the places where there is corrosion? As you can see from the pic below that there are going to be a few patches through out the boat.

As you can see here the hull cleaned up fairly well considering all the gunk that was in there in the first place. I am betting that this is the first time the floor has been out of the boat.

Took lots of scraping with putty knife and other things for small nooks and crannies. Then a die grinder with wire wheel and then 4 1/2" grinder with wire wheel and 4 full tanks of gas on my 2500 psi pressure washer. Will say that the pressure washering was very interesting to say the least. But that part is done, next will get it to a level spot and fill with water and check for leaking rivets.

Just how warm does it have to be to use the glovit? Not been that warm here yet, like in the 40's and 50's but not sure that is warm enough for glovit.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Hey, what a difference Kelly! Excellent work man!

How about just a "skim coat" of JB or Marine Tex? What do you guys think?

 

[Daltonxj]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Much better!! looks really clean now. JB Weld will work on the really bad areas.. or even 5200...
about ready for gluvit...

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Thanks Jas, yes it was a beast to get done. But at least now it is clean.

I was wondering about the skim coat as well, but was not sure what to do. Like just fill in all the small holes with something with a putty knife and call it good.

As you can see the PO did a real bang up job of painting the inside of the cuddy part of the boat.

This is another thing that I am going to clean up, but at least the deck hid all of the runs that were low.

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Have a feeling that there might be a somewhat large leak in this area as I scrapped, wire brushed and pried a huge pile of sealant out of here. But will find out when I go and fill her full of water to check for leaks.

 

[Daltonxj]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

I filled these with JB Weld... Holding nicely..

as fir the big pile of gunk you removed I also had that mine was a red color..

Before:

After:

I replaced it with 3M 5200 marine.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Have a feeling that there might be a somewhat large leak in this area as I scrapped, wire brushed and pried a huge pile of sealant out of here.

Nope. The gunk is factory. We all have it.

 

[GLG fishing]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Thanks for the idea GLG, I was wondering what to do as far as that corrosion went. Yea the deck is up and the hull has been cleaned fairly well I think. So would you patch the boat hull in all the places where there is corrosion? As you can see from the pic below that there are going to be a few patches through out the boat.

Hi Kelly, yea I would patch all of them if had the material, tools and the help to do it. Nothing like that warm feeling that you have when the waves kick up and you are pounding the hull, returning to port with a load of salmon. You have the boat opened up and all the corrosion is available for you to work on. It looks like some of you corrosion is pitted almost right thru. Those spots need the most work and I would use a large patch, rivets and 3m5200. Other spots look like surface corrosion and perhaps only need filling with JB-Weld and a patch. Hard to tell with just a picture. Our boat hulls flex so the large areas that you patch should have 3m5200, small spot patches could probably be fixed with JB-Weld and a small piece of aluminum or just JB-Weld. You will have to make the call on each spot that you fix.

GLG

 

[GLG fishing]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Have a feeling that there might be a somewhat large leak in this area as I scrapped, wire brushed and pried a huge pile of sealant out of here. But will find out when I go and fill her full of water to check for leaks.

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I too had that gunk up front in the keel area. When I removed mine I could see light coming thru. Not good to say the least. I found some scrap aluminum that I could shape and used 3m5200 and rivets to make a patch on the outside. The keel had been worn from beaching or ramp rash I don?t know. The area is a compound curve and I was lucky to find a type of aluminum that I could shape with the help of a hammer. I have since tried to find more of this type of aluminum with no success. When I did my patch I used the rest of the 3m5200 that was in the tube to fill the inside of the keel area. So far the area is dry as a bone.
GLG

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Yah, depending on how severe that corrosion is - GLG might be right about beefing it up with some thin alum and 5200. He is one smart Canuck!

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Well I know that I can get some fairly thin alum in small sheets at the local Ace Hardware and it is not that spendy either. Yea Jas, I think GLG is hitting it right on the head as well. Thanks for the advice from all of you.

So with the rivets, what kind do I need to do through the hull. I know that they need to be solid but not sure as to what kind of head. I thought that I read somewhere that you should use brazer heads rivets but not sure and cannot find the place where I read it either. I also need to find a rivet gun and bits for it, an excuse for more toys errrr tools that is. Am also going to pick up a pneumatic rivet gun for the pop rivets as well, my arm won't take all those floor rivets with a manual one.

And on another note, was thinking of raising the deck just a couple of inches so that I can put a belly tank in her. The way the stringers sit there is not hardly any room between them and they are very shallow as well. Not sure how hard it would be to raise the deck other than having new stringers made. Would have to find something to add height to sides where the floor sits down on the ribs as well. Was thinking that if I could find some alum C channel that would be the way to go, but am betting that stuff is very spendy. Any ideas come to mind guys?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Nah, no need to make new stringers, just use the old ones!

Just slide them out to the sides of the hull till you get the desired height and rivet. Alum C channel would be a good move for over the ribs.

That is how I was able to accommodate my fuel tank. In my case I only needed like 1/2" or something but the concept is the same.

I have even heard fellas use junk aluminum ladders for extra structure - serious bottom feeders!

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

On the stringers I thought about moving them out as you said Jas. But then got to thinking facepalm:bad for me to do:facepalm since my front motor mount is attached to the stringers if I moved them out then it would raise the height of the front motor mount. Now is what I am thinking right? Cause if it is this could raise an issue with motor alignment if it cannot be adjusted down far enough.

Yea I have to check into finding some C channel if it is around here anywhere. I think that would be the way to go to raise the deck on the sides. Not yet sure how much I will need to raise the stringers if I do go belly tank, which I really would like to do. Just depends on what I find and how much I want to pay for one as well.

Yea the ladder idea is one cool one that is for sure and I like it a lot. It would be great for add structure to the deck and reinforcing it.

Wish I could bring the boat and parts to work on days like this, it is starting out slow and can get really boring really fast. 12 hour shifts with nothing to do makes for a really long day that is for sure.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Oh yah, motor mount - gotta think that part through. Doable man, still doable.

 

[MichaelP]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

The type of aluminum you want for bending or forming is either 5051 or 1100. Both work well and any sheet metal/metal fab shop should have scrap pieces laying around just waiting for bottom feeders like us. If you want strength get 6061-T6. Cuts good on a table saw with 60t carbide blade. Just use your PPE.

 

[barato2]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

here's a link to a good basic prmer on different types of aluminum: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/mepages/aluminfo.php

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

The type of aluminum you want for bending or forming is either 5051 or 1100. Both work well and any sheet metal/metal fab shop should have scrap pieces laying around just waiting for bottom feeders like us. If you want strength get 6061-T6. Cuts good on a table saw with 60t carbide blade. Just use your PPE.

Thanks for this info, it will make finding the right stuff a lot easier to do.

here's a link to a good basic prmer on different types of aluminum: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...s/aluminfo.php

Nice link, that helps a lot as well. Tells what is what and what can be done to it.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

All Canadians are smart just some are smarter than others. Kinda what Yogi Berra would have said.