'67 Starcraft Islander with way too many parts taken off it.

[Pugetsound]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

If you are into haveing to cut and splice Aluminum pieces the Dual Saw is the best tool I ever have owned. Counter rotating blades makes it to easy to do. i'm Serious this is a great tool if used as it was intended.

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

If you are into haveing to cut and splice Aluminum pieces the Dual Saw is the best tool I ever have owned. Counter rotating blades makes it to easy to do. i'm Serious this is a great tool if used as it was intended.

Oh sure Puget, give me another reason to buy more toys....errrr...ahhhh tools, yea that is it tools. But to be honest I am not going to be cutting out any aluminum, but I may be putting patches on the inside though. I have seen adds for the dual saw and they do look pretty interesting and have actually thought of getting one, will have to see.

So does anyone now what rivets I need to use for the bottom of the boat? Have not seen anyone answer the question when I asked before and I do not know for sure other than solid aluminum rivets. I have looked at some of the sites that people have put up and there are like a million different kinds of them:facepalm:.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

The dual saw will cut thru a 1/2 inch piece of rebar like it was butter. Aluminum not a problem I have som different size stock and thick or thin it goes right thru it. Now I wont have to dig out the saws all with the metal blade. You sure have your hans full for a while. Keep the faith as you will reach a point where you can see what you have actually accomplished . Good luck. Pugetsound ED

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

You sure have your hans full for a while. Keep the faith as you will reach a point where you can see what you have actually accomplished . Good luck. Pugetsound ED

Yea that saw seems pretty cool. Yes I do have my hands full with this thing, it seems that everytime I turn around there is another surprise. The way I look at it is I have gotten a lot accomplished as of now, the hull is naked except for the paint now. I don't think that there can be anymore surprises at this point. I am expecting to find leaks when I fill her with water so that will not be a surprise in any way. And I am expecting to have to replace rivets and that is why I have been asking what kind to get as well. I know that the hole in the transom has a corrision hole in it and that needs to be repaired as well. I also know that there are going to be patches in the bottom of the boat now so that is hopefully the last thing that is going to jump out and bite me.

I just need to find a boat that I can borrow the outdrive and motor from and I will be good to go. Had a few leads but they have all fallen through for one reason or another, but something will come along. And the nice thing is that after this week I should have a little $$$$ to buy something with as well.

So anyone want to let me borrow thier I/O for a weekend, promise I will take good care of it. Oh, and it has to be a merc as well. 4 cylinder or I6 would be just fine

 

[GLG fishing]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Kelly
For solid rivets length you need the thickness of the material you are going to fasten plus 1.5 times the diameter of the rivet before bucking.

I?m lucky, I can go down to the local marine store and find them in the bolt section. I also have a buddy in the aviation field that has an air gun for this purpose. I am told if the rivet is too long you can cut them to fit.

Perhaps you should post a question in the restoration section and you might get a better answer from the guys that hang out there.

GLG

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Ok, thanks to DJ I have the information that I need as far as the rivets and rivet tools go for solid rivets. So now have to order some rivets and tools to get that part done. I went down to ACE and checked out the aluminum sheeting that they had and it is pretty thin. I am wondering if it would work for doing the patches. They will be on the inside of the hull with either 4200 or 5200 under it and then like 6 or so rivets to attach it to the hull.

Hey fshngho what problems did you have with HF air riveter? I have been checking them out and was wondering. I have also looked at others and to get a 1/4" one bout anywhere else it is going to be very spendy, have even seen a couple over the $2K mark.

Does anyone know how warm it has to be to do the glovit? Still not all that warm around here but not really freezing either, not that it gets that cold all that much anyway.

I was reading on the USCOMPOSITES site that it should be 70 or better to use their epoxy or it can double the dry time. I also checked out the clarkcraft site as well. It seems that the 1:1 epoxy is more expensive. For the 5 gallon kit it is comparable in price to the uscomposites. But the 5 gallon kit from clarkcraft is 2.5 gallon of epoxy and 2.5 gallons of hardener while uscomposites is 5 gallon of epoxy and then whatever hardener you need and it about the same price. So it seems that you get more product from uscomposites for about the same money. Maybe my thinking is wrong, in fact I am pretty sure it now that I think about it but I had to hurt my head to write this so I am leaving it on here:facepalm:.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Well I guess the price isn't as good but I can attest to two things about the Clarkcraft......1: the 1:1 ratio sure was easy to deal with (and it seemed pretty tolerant to my totatally non-accurate measuring) and it dried just fine in cooler temps. I just space-heated my garage.

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Well I guess the price isn't as good but I can attest to two things about the Clarkcraft......1: the 1:1 ratio sure was easy to deal with (and it seemed pretty tolerant to my totatally non-accurate measuring) and it dried just fine in cooler temps. I just space-heated my garage.

I was wondering how it did with lower temps. It is usually in the low 40's at night and I don't have a heater for the garage. I don't really care about the price if I can work with it at our temps is all.

Hey EZ, would you know what temp it needs to be for the glovit? That will probably be my next step after doing a leak check on the hull. If these things don't tolerate lower temps then the boat is on hold for a while as it is all cleaned on the inside and ready to do some stuff to it.

 

[djpeters]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

The Gluvit will take days to cure if it's cold, same with the epoxy. It will setup, but it will take a while to get rid of the tackiness. They will be thick to mix in the cold as well. I keep my epoxy in the house so when I'm ready to use it, it mixes and spreads easier.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

I did Gluvit with only a really crummy space heater and it cured. It was Nov. Not sure how cold it was.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Cure time is one piece of the puzzle, application is the other. I have learned that the warmer it is the better the application. When the epoxy is nice and warm it flows really well and lays down just right. If it's cold, it's a kinda gluey.

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Cure time is one piece of the puzzle, application is the other. I have learned that the warmer it is the better the application. When the epoxy is nice and warm it flows really well and lays down just right. If it's cold, it's a kinda gluey.

Yea I would keep the epoxy in the house like what DJ said he did, so it would not be that bad except for the temp of the wood. Need to find a cheap-o heater for the garage I guess. But for the glovit not sure what to do there. There is no way that rig is going to fit into my garage. Will have to do some heavy thinking on this no matter how much it hurts my head.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Forgive me if I already asked you this but, do you have 240V out in your garage? Or is there a fuse panel out there? I very easily added a 240V line in mine (I'm no electrician) and got a pretty powerful heater very reasonably from a Northern Tool type place. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200395480_200395480

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Forgive me if I already asked you this but, do you have 240V out in your garage? Or is there a fuse panel out there? I very easily added a 240V line in mine (I'm no electrician) and got a pretty powerful heater very reasonably from a Northern Tool type place. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200395480_200395480

No you did not ask EZ, and I do as far as having a dryer plugin. Might be able to branch off of that or something, there is also the breaker box in the garage. I looked at the link and it seems like a pretty cool heater. Does it use a lot of power or should I say raise the power bill a bunch? Just have to ask so there are no surprises to the admiral and she scuttles any more of the ideas I get or am told about. Thanks for the ideas as well EZ and the link.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

OUCH my power bill runs about 250 in the cold weather. So useing a few heaters does raise the bill. You might go with a propane infra heater the type that goes on top of a tank.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Yes, your electric bill will be elevated.

 

[KellyC]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Yes, your electric bill will be elevated.

Yea I kind of figured it would, just wondering if it was a lot or not?

Wife got tired of all the tools that I have laying around the garage and finally figured out that my tool box was not big enough for all of them. I currently have this and no more room in the blooming thing.:facepalm:

Well she goes out to do some stuff and comes home with this.

Man is she ever cool or what.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

She rocks!

My wife is cool too, she let's me live with her.

 

[heyyou325]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

I have some time to read other threads, as it's still snowing here. For mounting your motor on, I purchased some aluminum square (rectangular actually) tubing. 2"X4"X1/8" fit perfect with my stringer. Took and old mud flap, just look along 84 should find one in say 1/4 mile, used a hole saw, and made rubber washers, spacers, whatever you want to call them. They do stick in the hole saw tho, especially if you do more than one at a time. Just got my engine reinstalled yesterday afternoon. Wished I had a garage to work on mine in. And I'll trade you wifes, mine just tells me to pick up my toys er tools. I'm also almost to the point of starting to gluvit the interior. I've go 2 halogen lights, 2 old fashioned (the type that makes heat) flood lights, and one old heat lamp that still works from when we raised chickens, hopefully that will keep it warm enough with a tarp. What's going to happen when all the lights go to this low energy stuff from China cause it's cheaper?

 

[barato2]

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

Re: Well I did it now! 76 Islander rebuild

good tip on the old mud flaps. and finding an old one will give you far better quality than most of the mud flaps sold new....i bought a new one for mounting coolant lines under my VW bus, and it's a piece of carp....not even rubber, rather it's some sort of plastic. found an old one when stopping to relieve self by side of road and it's 3/8" thick rubber that will NEVER wear through