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[Home Cookin']

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consider buying a boat with your BIL? he gets an upgrade, you both share the fixed costs. Most people, realistically, don't use their boat as often as they like, not every weekend, so sharing works out. Not for everyone; you have to know the dynamics.

Also I would almost always recommend an outboard over an I/O but that is a frequently debated topic here. But since you don't know what you want, you have the freedom of considering everything.

 

[TheZeeMan]

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LOL I don't think I could satisfy his needs, he has a 32' offshore, totally opposite of my wants lol

On the I/O topic though, I can't go shallow with an outboard correct, I believe that's what the boat dealer guy was telling me or someone was, don't know if they were full of it? I'll be in freshwater lakes and our main lake that everyone goes on has lots of sandbars, so you kind of go shallow (about 3-4' deep) and just anchor up and relax.

 

[Bob_VT]

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LOL I don't think I could satisfy his needs, he has a 32' offshore, totally opposite of my wants lol

On the I/O topic though, I can't go shallow with an outboard correct, I believe that's what the boat dealer guy was telling me or someone was, don't know if they were full of it? I'll be in freshwater lakes and our main lake that everyone goes on has lots of sandbars, so you kind of go shallow (about 3-4' deep) and just anchor up and relax.

Well 3-4' is not too shallow unless your boat weighs allot. Knee deep is shallow!

Okay..... an outboard can be trimmed up to run shallow however caution is the word.....only slow speed and not too high where you starve the water pick up.

On an I/O the same holds true with this one addition...... there is a joint in the driveline that bends with the angle change. The universal joint bends and keeps the motor turning the drive but the stress can go up and SLOW speed (idle) only. Once again the water pick up is a concern.

Regardless of what you have you must be aware of the bottom depth. I/O usually get much superior MPG then outboards and if you are looking at a cuddy it would require a fair size motor. I/O do require more complex winter maintenance then outboards...... learning to turn wrenches and do your own work (with a proper service manual) will save you money on any boat with any motor.

Do a search for a Bayliner 192 Cuddy say about 5 or 6 years old. Nice entry level boat that can be towed by your vehicle and even with the smallest I/O will handle skier's and tubes. I imagine you will find one in your price range too.

 

[smallboatlover]

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If you do go for a boat with an outboard look for a outboard that is newer and 4 stroke. there really good on the gas the newer ones. And if your worried about ruining the motor or hitting something with it, you could get a kicker motor say a 3.5 hp or a little more to get to in closer if you were worried about ruining the prop or skeg.

 

[ezmobee]

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On the I/O topic though, I can't go shallow with an outboard correct, I believe that's what the boat dealer guy was telling me or someone was, don't know if they were full of it?

That actually seems backwards to me.

 

[smallboatlover]

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ya isn't it you can go into shallow water with a outboard better then a i/o could?

 

[dockwrecker]

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Ok guys anything good about this boat just by reading or should I pass?

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/boa/2218156218.html

It was an OK deal until I read OMC 5.8. I thought OMC and Volvo merged about this time, maybe parts are available. Needs batteries, (5 yrs old) drive seals etc since they're 8 years old. Not bad, no diamond.

 

[smallboatlover]

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what state are you looking to buy a boat i'll look around and shoot you some suggestions i got nothing better to do

 

[JimS123]

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ya isn't it you can go into shallow water with a outboard better then a i/o could?

The powerplant isn't the bottleneck. It's the draft of the hull. All I/Os have power trim so the prop can be raised above the botom of the boat and if you run at 1000 rpm you can drive right up on the beach. If you have an OB without power trim you'd better have oars!

 

[smallboatlover]

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[TheZeeMan]

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what state are you looking to buy a boat i'll look around and shoot you some suggestions i got nothing better to do

Michigan, but detroit metro area...there's a lot on the west side of the state but I'm not sure about driving that far just to look ya know? Thanks though, really appreciate it!

 

[smallboatlover]

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i did just have three boats that i posted but some reason the moderator deleted it for no reason.

 

[ezmobee]

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i did just have three boats that i posted but some reason the moderator deleted it for no reason.

Well two of them had OMC's in them (heck one of them had TWO OMCs in it) despite the fact that we have been discussing why you shouldn't buy a boat with an OMC in it for a whole page.

 

[rickryder]

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Well two of them had OMC's in them (heck one of them had TWO OMCs in it) despite the fact that we have been discussing why you shouldn't buy a boat with an OMC in it for a whole page.

:facepalm:

 

[TheZeeMan]

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LOL Definitely don't want OMC! There's another place by me that does bidding...has anyone had luck with these? This one looks like a potential...I'm going to call them tomorrow to get more details.

http://www.harrisonmarine.com/boat_rpt.cfm?BOID=962

 

[Bob_VT]

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Very nice boat..... Wide and deep.......... you will not do more than an idle in shallow water since it will draft quite a bit. You will be towing something at the top of your weight limit and it is almost 9' wide so....... it may throw your vehicle around.

It is a good choice and not what I consider a trailered boat but it will fit your "needs" For pulling a tube.....it will be no challenge...... for pulling ski's it will respond slowly but with the trim tabs you should be fine.

Be sure to ask about any maintenance that has been performed? Impellar, tune up and winterization. Ask about the trailer brakes, bearings and tires too.

 

[LippCJ7]

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That looks like an excellent choice, fits your needs with room to expand, might be a bit small for a growing family but if boating sets the hook in your family we always seem to find ways to deal with that!! Let us know what you find out after you inspect it and what your feelings are afterwards.

 

[JoLin]

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I agree with Bob and LippCJ7. Nice choice if it checks out. Good luck!

 

[ezmobee]

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That's a real nice cruiser.

 

[TheZeeMan]

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I called and he said I just place a bid on it and I can offer more or less if I change my mind but the bank has to review it. He did say they did run it and it runs fine, but the batteries are dead and they picked it up winterized. I think I'm going to go look at it. I just want to look for rot in the floorboard and what else? I'll ask the questions you provided as well Bob.

They said I can bid with like a contingency such as bid for $x amount upon passing marine survey, as I have to get one anyway because of my insurance company. Thanks for the feedback guys, I feel much better about the boat buying process