Big problem? Little problem?

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Oh my to replace those their saying 23.00 for kit and 2400. for tools. Definitely out side my budget. But they say if their leaking they would have rust or water damage and I don't have that. So I just not sure what to do next.

 

[Bondo]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

If water leaks into this bellow where does it end up?

Ayuh,.... In the bilge....

The bellows kit is more than $23.00, 'n it don't take $2400.00 in Tools... even if you own No tools...

That ring shouldn't have come Out, which says to Me, there might be a Problem somewhere...
I don't remember the big O-ring, at all,... The squarish 1 goes in the bell, 'n meets the drives snout...
Which brings into question, Who was there last,..??

 

[rpaldrich]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Viper1-- I think you are right about it being for the bellows... I was watching a youtube video and he started talking about that part and I thought to myself, I've seen that talked about before on iboats in this thread..

This video is made by the same guy that is referenced in the how to engine alignment sticky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYFXJhOE8Y0&feature=related

12:47 has a real clear view of your part.

 

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Viper1-- I think you are right about it being for the bellows... I was watching a youtube video and he started talking about that part and I thought to myself, I've seen that talked about before on iboats in this thread..

This video is made by the same guy that is referenced in the how to engine alignment sticky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYFXJhOE8Y0&feature=related

12:47 has a real clear view of your part.

Well it does look right there. Also they said that seal can be reused if it don't get bent coming out. So thinking it might be fine.

"Ayuh,.... In the bilge....hoping you said that.

The bellows kit is more than $23.00, 'n it don't take $2400.00 in Tools... even if you own No tools...
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Well sorry I meant 230.00 for kit and 2400.00 for tools merc says. They also said only a job for a Merc Pro

That ring shouldn't have come Out, which says to Me, there might be a Problem somewhere...
I don't remember the big O-ring, at all,... The squarish 1 goes in the bell, 'n meets the drives snout...
Which brings into question, Who was there last,..?? "
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Well you pull that ring to install the bellows, But it sait its ok to reuse if not damaged. Seems the rubber gasket "the square one " fits there. Or at least that's the way I read it. What the O-ring is for I have no idea but it was in one of the 4 kits I bought. As far as who's been there only the Lord knows! Now if I was to put back together as the ring tapped in nice and if bellows look good. How long would it have to be in the water to show a leak? I thought of putting it in the water and watching the engine compartment for water.
Also I may drain the lube when I get home just to double check for water. If its clean I could just put it back. I would think a leak will show pretty quick. What would you guys think. And I do appreciate all the tips,options and point of view. I would like to do it all and be done. But if it works for this summer or even till next I would be in better position.

 

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Well drive is in and holds air. But now won't shift. The linkage lined up fine. Had it in forward and slid right in. But won't hardly go in neutral and no way reverse. Afraid to push to hard I know some thing is wrong. I cant think on any think except when I pulled the shifter rod to replace seal. Is there more then one way to put it back? Other than that what else could it be?

 

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

The boat shifter works good when drive is off. THe drive shifts when off, I raised and looked and the shifter connection is fine. But when on it dosent shift.

 

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Well if know body has any ideas guess i'll have to use process of elimination. May be drop the lower and check shifter. If that frees it up it would be to lower. If not then that means the upper is the problem. Since I can see the shifter hook up is Ok it would have to be in that sliding piece for the shifter. Well if any body has any other ideas it would be appreciated before i go through more work and gaskets.

 

[ktbarrentine]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Well if know body has any ideas guess i'll have to use process of elimination. May be drop the lower and check shifter. If that frees it up it would be to lower. If not then that means the upper is the problem. Since I can see the shifter hook up is Ok it would have to be in that sliding piece for the shifter. Well if any body has any other ideas it would be appreciated before i go through more work and gaskets.

Sorry no one has answered yet (it is still a fairly fresh post). Just from what I can tell, and what you said about changing the shifter seal, it sounds like you may be off a spline on your lower shift shaft. With your drive pulled, can you rotate the lower shift shaft to put it in fwd-neutral-rev and get the right response in each position? When it is giving the right response in fwd (prop "clicks turning clockwise, but does not turn ccw), what is the position of the shift shaft (i.e. pointing straight ahead)?

Also...by your phrase "drop the lower" do you mean just the lower half of the drive, or are you calling the outdrive the "lower". You dont have to split the drive (i.e. drop the "lower") to check the response of the lower shift shaft.

 

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Sorry no one has answered yet (it is still a fairly fresh post).Sorry just inpatient I guess.

Just from what I can tell, and what you said about changing the shifter seal, it sounds like you may be off a spline on your lower shift shaft. With your drive pulled, can you rotate the lower shift shaft to put it in fwd-neutral-rev and get the right response in each position? When it is giving the right response in fwd (prop "clicks turning clockwise, but does not turn ccw), what is the position of the shift shaft (i.e. pointing straight ahead)?Well thought I did any way. But thinking maybe recheck.

Also...by your phrase "drop the lower" do you mean just the lower half of the drive, or are you calling the outdrive the "lower". You dont have to split the drive (i.e. drop the "lower") to check the response of the lower shift shaft.

Well I meant drop the lower half of the Out drive. I can't check it with the rod in the piece on the boat. So i figure drop it and see exactly how it turns. I know the lower shifts. Just not positive if it may be off a notch or two. If there is a way of checking with out please let me know.

 

[viper1]

Re: Big problem? Little problem?

Well dropped the lower half of drive and pulled the shifter link and repositioned it Now all is well! Till next time LOL. Will pick up oils and finish this weekend. Tr help.hanks every body for you