Carver 2357 Montego rebuild

[redneck joe]

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Joe,
Use the pieces you are ripping off, if you can, for patterns and glue some new **** up. Or did you just buy this thing to have something to work on? Any kind of prep for paint, even s****y prep, is going to take a lot of time and work and if you don't do it right it will look like s***.

simple question, whyinell do you think that s*** is there?


dumb***

 

[redneck joe]

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i'm trying to clean up the language btw so if i miss one let me know.

 

[redneck joe]

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oh i know they used it, cranky old man.


no i couldn't/didn't save any of it. mrs will have the final say; her comment the other night after she turned to me, looked me in the eye, while SHE was in the drivers seat making vroom vroom noises was 'hell, this is my boat *****!'


so i'm hoping she will do all the work.






miles:

may be a 3' but either way its a big *** hole the the middle of the hull

yes it is, except the parts that had patches welded on.

 

[redneck joe]

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In the honor of redneck tradition, buy the paint color you like or that will match your twuck and get er done. It will outlast the boat just dipping in fresh water. Whole diffrent deal than salt. Grease your bearing once a year at most. The brakes is where you need to spend money if they won't stop the boat AND TRUCK.

 

[redneck joe]

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I thnik i'm going to work on the boat and try splashing it t see if it runs before i buy a new lower unit.

change oil
change lower unit oil.
new impeller (never done one on a merc)

anything else? gumout the carb?

 

[redneck joe]

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Lighter fluid and match?

 

[redneck joe]

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ok so i need to get the boat to set on the trailer correctly (new bunks and loaded on with a forklift. The front is good; on the bow stop and the first roller however at the stern it is off by about 4". Actually the front roller is about an inch high but what i want to do below it actually works in my favor i think.

I could go to the ramp and spend the day backing in and out, loading and unloading, bolting and unbolting but i dont want to do that.

it has two sets of bunks - the outside ones ant the back and the inside ones to the front. The latter are pretty much on target, the outside back are jacked.

I'm thinking i can use my floor jack and a peice of wood to jack the stern up about 1/2" and drop the back bunks. any issues with the wood/jacking up scenario as it relates tot he hull??

Then while it is up take a length of wood and use as a lever between the trailer and the gunwale to push the boat over the requisit 4". When positioned to the correct place slowly drop the jack to lower the boat onto the center rollers. Shouldn't tilt to either side but would keep some pressure on the jack and/or use lengths of wood on each side to keep in place.

Then i can set the outside bunks to the proper location, drop the jack completely and adjust anything else.


what say the group?

 

[redneck joe]

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Just make sure somebody holds your beer while you try it.

 

[redneck joe]

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put the floor jack in from the side that the boat needs to move to
block between the floor jack and the keel at the transom (strongest point)
jack the stern up to clear and position the stern in the center of the trailer by pulling on the jack.
adjust **** so it fits.
let boat down onto trailer

Obviously this assumes you have access to the keel . . .

 

[redneck joe]

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ya'll probably wonder why i'm posting all the talk instead of just pic but you might get a flavor for just how big an idiot i can be.







This might be easier since the bow end is OK on the trailer:

Lower the front of the trailer at the forward trailer jack which makes the transom go higher. Put a 4X4 at an angle to the hull on side that has to move toward the center and then crank up the trailer jack, lowering the rear of the trailer whcih will also move the boat in the right direction. When you have the boat centered - crank the front of the trailer back down so the boat sits on center - remove the 4X4. Support the boat on blocks on the keel or at some point AFTER the rear axle or under the transom at the keel. Now you can raise the front of the trailer (thereby raising the boat off the trailer again) and make the adjustments to the rollers. By using the trailer jack and blocks at the transom the boat will not be hanging in mid-air, it's very unlikely it will fall and even if it does the trailer will keep it from hitting the ground (or you - if you happen to be under it making adjustments at the time.)

Consider adding 'glides' to the bunks the next time you launch - easy to do, inexpensive and makes launching and reloading a breeze.

bunk glides | eBay

 

[redneck joe]

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thanks mello that might just work...

actually i'll take three 2x4's and screw together with the center one recessed about an inch to accomdate for the keel.

 

[redneck joe]

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well mellos idea didn't work. I think the tandem interferes - it actually picked it up off the front of the rear bunk, not the back. And it bent my tounge jack a bit. Think i'll just try my floor jack. If that doesn't work, looks like a day at the ramp.

 

[redneck joe]

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it is done - at least the moving part. Have to reset/move back bunks...

 

[redneck joe]

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ok not a great pic but - as you can hopefully see the bracket is kicked to the left. The toher side (currently completely dropped) could go about the same. Should i keep them with that little amount hitting the boat or driill new top holes and kick in to the right to get the full 5.5" on the hull? I would keep the bottom holes as is, just kick over and drill new tops.

i'll post the dumbass pics after the event is complete.

 

[redneck joe]

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Here you go

From the front

 

[redneck joe]

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[redneck joe]

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I wish metal drilled as fast as wood.


Well there went a $30 drill bit.


All done

 

[redneck joe]

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Not with out pics it aint.


How can we criticize your work if we cant see it?

 

[redneck joe]

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ok - first the dumbass picture. I needed to move the *** end of the boat to the starboard. Guess what side i forgot to drop the bunk out of the way? Shawn and i even talked about it when he stopped by...

here is how i bent the tounge jack - trying mellos suggestion which would have worked had i not been a dumbass per the previous pic. I ended cutting that peice about 8' shorter to use my floor jack before i relized and rectified my dumbassedness so in the end mellos theory with a floor jack was the solution.

so drop that bunk and get some wood to leverage.

then do the other side (note the beer; a must for any semi dangerous boating project)

then come back and fine tune the first side when the other side dropped an inch after removing the bunk

then call it good

 

[redneck joe]

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i wish it was as easy as it sounded.


ok, second guess me, tell me what i did wrong, and :-[