I SEE why our guys are getting killed now

boatingfool

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Re: I SEE why our guys are getting killed now

Toad,<br /><br />I see you jumped on some people for being racist for using the term "Ragheads" but then you start calling people "Rednecks".<br /><br />Kind of hypocritical dont ya think??<br /><br />So are you a racist?? I doubt that you are but what makes Redneck any less of a racist comment than Ragheads?
 

walleyehed

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tlands, point taken as far as my link goes, but I must ask....are WE being told by our own people THE TRUTH..??????<br /><br />Boatingfool.............wish I had one of those in the back seat of my boat....... :eek:
 

boatingfool

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Thanks walleye. :) <br /><br />It is a pretty good pic isnt it. :cool:
 

Toad2001

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sorry boatingfool. perhaps I made a poor choice. I didn't realize anybody would consider rednecks as a race.<br /><br />Ray is clearly racist towards middle eastern people, muslim peole, and the buck probably doesn't stop there.
 

boatingfool

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I didnt realize "Ragheads" was a race.<br /><br />I thought it was a reference to a religon. <br /><br />Of course Redneck can be taken as a racist statement. <br />You even used it in a dergatory way in your post.<br />You didnt use the term Redneck to give him a compliment.<br /><br />Its used to attatch the impression of an uneducated, poor, southern white male.<br /><br />Racism isnt something that just white people do to others. It works both ways.<br /><br />Caucasion American boatingfool. :) <br /><br />BTW,<br />Please dont think I am singling you out but I couldnt help but notice you giving people a hard time about using the term raghead while at the same time you are calling them Rednecks.<br /><br />Cant play both sides of the fence. ;)
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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I am racist towards islamic fundamentalist radicals between the ages of 18 - 40, the ones "profiled" because they have a bad habit of doing terrible things, shooting up olympic games, capturing embassies, bombing 747s, flying jets into high density / high visibility as in high profile buildings<br /><br />things like that<br /><br />just iraq? no, against any terrorist friendly nation, iraq, syria, SA, <br /><br />and I did buy a vowel, several of them<br /><br />U A E, as in <br /><br /> DUCT TAPE <br /><br />so now I can wait for the stinkin ragheads to drop some sorta bomb and Ill wait with my plastic sheathed windows and doors sealed off<br /><br />The New American Way<br /><br />passively await your doom<br /><br />I know this much, any ragheads coming to MY door will find an American wearing a gas mask and sporting a laser sighted semi auto rifle<br /><br />Chains find only willing wrists<br /><br />what is YOUR version of The Answer, or is the limit of your intellectual capabilities to pontificate on the cultural inadequacies of born and bred by God AMERICANS????<br /><br />by the way, this "face" :mad: is the expression of righteous ANGER, too bad they dont have one in yellow with its hands raised in surrender, which is apparently the one best suited for YOU<br /><br /> :rolleyes:
 

Toad2001

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boatingfool, to tell you the truth, I never attached Redneck to poor or predominantly southern. Redneck to me does infer uneducated, white and racist though, in which Ray meets the criteria.<br /><br />I'm not playing both sides of the fence, and I don't think I'm hypocritical. I just don't think in this day and age, and especially at this time, there can be any tolerance for racism. Its pathetic that of all the people who read Ray's rant, that I'm the only one who commented on it. Is it OK to hate Muslims? "Ragheads"? East Indians? Blacks? Jews? <br /><br />I see no difference between what Ray said about ragheads and any other race. He is full of hatred, doesn't understand the facts, and I can't beleive I'm wasting keystrokes trying to explain this for the fifth time.
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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oh brother, what a pompous azz!<br /><br />hey, toad, I have two college degrees and 41 years of learning under my belt<br /><br />turban topped guys pump gas in my cars all the time, without me checking for a sizzling fuse as I leave the station (tho if they sell me bad gas, I do call it camel ****, so yeah, mean old racist me)<br /><br />re read what I said about islamic fundamentalist radicals - and the nations that condone that behavior<br /><br />big difference between a washed, pressed turban and FILTHY DISGUSTING RAGS<br /><br />IE, STINKIN RAGHEADS<br /><br />(and IM the redneck, by his deffinitshun - nah, I take that back, he does spell well, prolly a second year undergrad, 20 years old, on his holy high horse about a unified world, yo slick! that aint happenin for a long while!)<br /><br />but lets presume intelligence, and to you, oh sage provider of salient facts, I ask this question, in regard to your comment:<br /><br />
You'll also speed up that inevitable radioactive suitcase.
inevitable eh?<br /><br />so how do we make it non inevitable?<br /><br />what would make them happy?<br /><br />stop pumping trillions of dollars into the middle east? (those sultans didnt get rich selling really good sand for making microprocessors yanno)<br /><br /> :rolleyes:
 

Boomyal

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Ray I guess this must fall under the catagory of "Can't we all just get along". The Islamic world has Hated Western Civilization since the begining of time. Only now they have the money to do something about it. By Toads way of thinking (at least those on his side of the eisle) If we'd ( that's us eeevil capitalists) go back to the horse and buggy days and quit using such an UNFAIR amount of the world's resources, why then these people would have no reason to hate us. In other words Ray, it's all our fault and if we dare say anything negative about the catagorie of people that you mention, we are just a bunch of real extreme mean racists. After all Islam is a religion of peace---isn't it?
 

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Toad said;<br />
Redneck to me does infer uneducated, white and racist though, in which Ray meets the criteria.
Toad, I take exception to that statement.<br />Although I don't have 4 or 5 years of college, I am not by any stretch of your imagination, uneducated.<br /><br />I am white and not racist.<br /><br />I lost a brother in the WTC disaster and I have no love for the people responsible for it regardless of who it is.<br /><br />I would like the chance to flip the switch on all of them, and that way I would know I got the right one.<br /><br />If you want to talk about Ray, then fire on it, but leave this Redneck out of your stereotyping.
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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I notice that the racist, strike that, im sure he considers himself "elitist" :rolleyes: "toad" is long on political correctness, and rather short on substance<br /><br />I am off on another long day of self improvement and furthering my own education ...<br /><br />something those ignorant ragheads dont seem to have a handle on, easier to destroy someone or something else, rather than rise to you own personal best<br /><br />that is probably the catalyst that fuels the rage, we have opportunity if we just work hard enough<br /><br />then again, they probably see us as the spawn of the Crusaders, I guess Richard the Lionhearted is still hated by those camel porkin flea bitten miserable troglodytes<br /><br />(just for you toad, in case you are unfamiliar with the term, they dont get into that til the third year - Trog"lo*dyte\, n. [L. troglodytae, pl., Gr. ? one<br />who creeps into holes; ? a hole, cavern (fr. ? to gnaw) + ?<br />enter: cf. F. troglodyte.]<br />1. (Ethnol.) One of any savage race that dwells in caves,<br /> instead of constructing dwellings; a cave dweller. Most of<br /> the primitive races of man were troglodytes.)<br /><br />and so, with nothing better to do with their miserable sun baked scratch dirt lives, they use what mental resources they have to cause havoc and destruction<br /><br />one last thought from this uneducated mind ...<br /><br />do you really think ANY homespun operation in the WORLD could exist against the US Govt, the CIA, the FBI, and now the military machine, (and dont forget British intelligence, they are pretty clever in their own right) <br /><br /> WITHOUT COVERT SUPPORT FROM THESE ISLAMIC NATIONS? DO YOU? ARE YOU THAT FEEBLE MINDED? <br /><br />oh yeah, one more thing, I used to rub elbows with a lot of rednecks, and maybe they arent so book smart (the ones that had to go out and work before finishing school) but Ill tell ya what<br /><br />they will help you out in a heartbeat<br /><br />and they love america, love it or leave it<br /><br />see yall in nine hours or so
 

Toad2001

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SBN-I'm sincerely sorry about your brother.<br /><br />An exponential eye for an eye reaction with blindfolds on isn't reasonable recourse though.
 

mellowyellow

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the only person more stupid than an idiot is the<br />person who argues with him... :rolleyes: <br />peace,<br />M.Y.
 

Toad2001

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Ray,<br /><br />If you'd check my profile, you'd probably conclude it virtually impossible for me to be 20 based on the fact that I have a 32' Grand Banks and my dinghy is a 15' Whaler.<br /><br />As far as the inevitable radioactive suitcase, well, complete hatred on both sides isn't a good starting point. ie: You hate "ragheads" and extremist Muslims hate Americans.<br /><br />While the US is fighting in Iraq, AlQueda is establishing itself in other countries around the world. These terrorist cells are well funded, and are probably even in the US. <br /><br />Nato and the UN with the US' following, needs to focus on the AlQueda network and the states that sponsor terrorism on a PRIORITY basis. <br /><br />You asked...
 

Raghauler

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OK, I've stayed out of this long enough.<br /><br />SBN: Sorry to hear. My close childhood friend also lost a brother in Tower Two on 9/11. He was a really good kid. Thankfully, I know more people who got out before they fell. Thank God.<br /><br />War is war. In war, ends do justify the means. Saddam would have set off a dirty bomb in the US as soon as it became available, but not now. Someone else might, but the threat didn't get any worse just because we're over there pi$$ing off terrorists. 9/11 proved that. We can pull back and become isolationists, but we're going to get attacked. That's a fact. We need to exterminate the threat. That's not racist, it's the truth.<br /><br />War is war. Move in, and win. That's America, and the only way we know how to fight. We lost sight of that in SE Asia, but learned from it. No one died in Viet Nam in vain. It, unfortunately, was a necessary lesson we shall never forget. If it hadn't happened there, we would be suffering from that today at the hands of wishful liberals trying those same bad "tactics". Again, to all of our Viet Nam veterans: you did not serve in vain. You fulfilled incredible purpose for the benefit of future generations of Americans... so long as we never forget.<br /><br />Toad, as a Canadian, with all due respect, you don't get it. I am at least seven generations American, and can't keep track of all my kin who fought and sacrificed their lives in their youth fighting for the Constitution and the freedom it guarantees. I do know they fought in every war America has ever waged, including Desert Storm, and the present day. Your opinion, while certainly guaranteed by our Constitution, if not yours, is a cancer. The war is lost already if America adopts it. No flame intended, but I don't expect you to understand. Winning is the only solution.<br /><br />We are at war. Fight fair? Yeah, sure, OK. Whatever. ;)
 

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Re: I SEE why our guys are getting killed now

We hated the Japanese, Germans in WWII...they hated us. I bet(know) it is normal for waring peoples to hate each other, and I bet so fundamental to humanity that a PC movement cannot change it. You PC'rs are not immune from your own form of "racism". Check the mirror, you have only redirected your derision away from the enemy toward many of your countrymen( and continentmen). Maybe it is Stockholm syndrome...
 

Boomyal

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Truer words were never spoken SCO. Why is it that such a large number of people,, today, seem to zero in on the SMALL deficiencies we, as Americans, have and try to turn us into the devil incarnate. The biggest mystery is that it seems to happen at the hands of those who have benefited the most from this great society( sorry guys, I do not mean LBJ's definition). <br /><br />Is it misdirected guilt in the vacumn created by the denial of our Creator?
 

Toad2001

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Hi Raghauler,<br />Please look through this post again, <br />I clearly stated earlier that the only harm done was that an Iraqi $hit his pants.<br />I fully agree and support the tactic used in this instance, and agree with the original topic.
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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I hate islamic fundamentalist RAGHEADS, the guys that pump my gas I dont have a single problem with, and they have turbans on<br /><br />this is rather circuitous ... havent I said the above a DOZEN TIMES?<br /><br />but basically, you are saying, al queda is a cancer that is spreading, which is a good analogy, the towers looked rather like lungs, the intent was to knock the wind out of us<br /><br />well<br /><br />I never hated ragheads before 9-11<br /> <br />I was ten years old when the munich massacre happened, figured it was a palestine/jewish thing, they are always fighting over some rocky worthless spit of land by the dead sea<br /><br />I was 17 when the Iran thing happened, I equated the 444 days of captivity as a protest against us involvement in Iran, but the larger issue was internal conflict within the country<br /><br />When that cruise ship was taken over in the Med, some old guy got tossed overboard in his wheelchair, I thought it was some splinter faction making a name for itself<br /><br />Locherbee Scotland, the bombed 747, again, some sort of sick "statement" to the world<br /><br />World Trade Center attack #1, ok, a bit closer to home now, what the hell is going on?<br /><br />Now, older, wiser, hmmmmmmm, common denominator is <br /><br /> ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTAL EXTREMISTS <br /><br />what do you do with a cancer?<br /><br />Chop it out, hit it with chemicals, when all else fails, RADIATION TREATMENT<br /><br />the willing hosts that harbor cancer sometimes die with the treatment<br /><br />well too bad, all America has done is taken the natural resources they didnt have a clue what to do with and turn it into a cash cow, hell, a Cash SUPERNOVA for the ruling class of these islamic countries, the fact that they keep it all for themselves is not OUR problem<br /><br />WE DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO THEM THAT I AM AWARE OF<br /><br />yet they blow up, destroy and attempt to poison and otherwise KILL AMERICANS<br /><br />We stand toe to toe against Russia for 40 years, and now we live in FEAR that some ragheaded (as in, islamic fundamentalist raghead) is going to NUKE US?<br /><br />there is a REASON the rulers in the middle east are so dammed strong armed and vicious and ruthless, why they chop tongues out of those that talk against them, why they publically hook FOUR JEEPS, one to each arm and leg of suspected insurrectionists, and draw and quarter them (nice way to put RIPPING THEM TO FOUR IRREGULAR CHUNKS OF BRIEFLY SHRIEKING HUMANITY isnt it?)<br /><br />FEAR is all they know, brutality is the way of life over there<br /><br />SO WHEN SOMEONE MERELY SHOOTS A GUN OVER THE HEAD OF A SUSPECTED TERRORIST, THEY SHOULD BE THANKFUL ITS NOT THEIR GOVERNMENT DOING THE SHOOTING, IT WOULD BE RIGHT THRU THE SKULL, OR WORSE, BLOW OFF TESTICLES AND FINGERS AND NOSE AND LET THE VICTIM SCREAM AND PLEAD FOR MERCY IN FRONT OF THE GAWKING POPULUS<br /><br />but of course there isnt any mercy<br /><br />except death<br /><br />Raghauler has it right, no nam games<br /><br />go in, destroy, get out<br /><br />or wait for a sunny clear weather day, the type where photographers can have a field day taking pictures ... <br /><br />of a mushroom cloud climbing over New York City<br /><br />bet that knocks the power out in Canada for a while, maybe THEN youll change how you feel about those poor innoncent extremists<br /><br /> :rolleyes:
 

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Re: I SEE why our guys are getting killed now

now, if you want to talk about the Grand Banks, thats another story
 
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