New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

horndog

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After not owning a boat since 2003, my wife let me buy one.

I found a 1992 Sunbird Corsair 175 17ft.

The boat checked out, yes, it is an OMC, but the boat is solid. Transom still solid, floors are good, interior in great condition carpet is filthy. A taken care of boat. Oil was just changed in both the motor and the stern drive(I checked). The skeg is broken off, but could be repaired or put a skeg guard on. Prop looked nicked, but I really didn't not look at it that closely.

The motor runs, outdrive shifts... etc.

Now, I took it out last week for the first time and it starts right up. I let it warm up and idled out ast the no wake zone and opened her up. She started to porpoise and slowly came down after about 30 seconds, hmm, shouldn't take that long? Maybe I am not trimming right... All in and acclerate, then trim back out a bit after on plane?

Some other mental notes I took while driving

Idle is not steady in neutral; may sit at 600rpms then shoot up to 1200rpms then it may start to drop back down and then dies. This takes about 5 minutes to do so.

Hard to steer seems like it has a high spot while turning left or right and you then you need to fight it a bit to keep it on the path, straight seems fine.

Noticed some vibration while accelerating, very little.

So I take a closer look at the engine and this is what I found:

Carb a bit dirty on the inside, could use a cleaning on the inside and out. Could be the idle issue

Spark plugs looked a bit rusty on the ceramic, so I replaced them

Plug wires seemed original, but not cracked or torn, in good shape

Water/fuel seperator filter looks like it needs to be changed - could also be the culrpit of the idle

Prop looked pretty beat up on the leading edges, one blade had a nice tear along the the edge about 2 inches long and about 1/4 inch deep. Could be the vibration issue. Prop is marked as a 14 1/2 x 19 R

The questions are:

Am I on the right track for the idle issue, I wouldn't call it a rough idle, it would be more at 600 for a minute or two, then jumps to 1200, then slowly climbs back down. I would call it more of an ADHD idle.

Would the prop(I wish I had a picture of it) cause the little vibration issue?

I was going to order a new prop and since I may have up to 6 people in this boat, should I stick with the current sized prop?

What is causing the hard steering? Do the cables need to be replaced or greased?

What about the porpoising?


I am looking for answers not critisim because it is an OMC.

Thanks
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

The vibration you feel could easily be the prop. That thing is way out of balance.

You can't tell by visually looking at a carb to see if it needs to be cleaned/rebuilt or not. Anything you see visually means nothing.

Have you checked timing and condition of cap and rotor?
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Well, I am going to buy a new prop anyways.
As far as the carb, yes, I know, but gunk around the carb could cause issues with it not holding an idle as it could be an adjustment of the accelerator.
No, I have not checked the timing yet and have not popped the cap off yet.

So far my shopping list is:
Water/fuel filter
Prop

The vibration you feel could easily be the prop. That thing is way out of balance.

You can't tell by visually looking at a carb to see if it needs to be cleaned/rebuilt or not. Anything you see visually means nothing.

Have you checked timing and condition of cap and rotor?
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

As far as the carb, yes, I know, but gunk around the carb could cause issues with it not holding an idle as it could be an adjustment of the accelerator.
Not likely. Normally, your helm control holds the carb linkage in a fixed position. There is no return spring like an automotive carb. See if you can move the carb linkage around. Shouldn't be able to wiggle it much.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Yep... Anyways, it needs to be cleaned.

Not likely. Normally, your helm control holds the carb linkage in a fixed position. There is no return spring like an automotive carb. See if you can move the carb linkage around. Shouldn't be able to wiggle it much.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Grease your swivil housing with the grease fitting in the hole on the front of the leg, also see if the shaft through the transum to the matching turning gear is lacking lubricant. Mine was the same as yours and the grease made all the difference.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Grease your swivil housing with the grease fitting in the hole on the front of the leg, also see if the shaft through the transum to the matching turning gear is lacking lubricant. Mine was the same as yours and the grease made all the difference.

He has a Cobra drive so he doesn't have that.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Oooooooops sri, I had Stringer on my mind when i was reading. Dah!
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Stick with the same size prop but get a new one
change both fuel filters-there is one in the carb
make sure the lube level is correct in that cobra. until you fill one yourself the correct way you have no idea if it was done correctly and you need to add lube to it so it wont crater.

Personally I would pull the O/D off and check things out. With it off you can lube the U joints, check the gimble bearing, alignment (which also could be causing the vibration)
Also unless you have hard documentation I would change the impeller and housing.

The steering is hydraulic behind the engine. Make sure everything is tight and not bent. There are 2-3 lube points back there for just the steering.

Check your points and distributor for rust.

You MUST keep that idle around 600 or you will blow the clutch dog.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

@HCMQA idle at 600 in gear in the water? The idle I qouted was with muffs on.. I will also check in the other items. I did get a new prop same size and pitch, I just have not installed it yet.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

There is a pickup coil on it, but no points, it is an EST ignition.

I don't think there are points on your distributor. I believe yours is electronic.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

I put the new prop on, and checked the cap and rotor. The cap and rotor are definately needing a replacement as there was build up on the contacts. I cleaned them off with a bit of sand paper.

I took the boat out for a test spin, and wow, the new prop seems to make a world of difference! Now I can get on plane a lot faster.

According to the dash guages, I was able to get it to about 38mph and 4100 rpms, which is a bit below the recommended WOT.

I did notice a lot of exhaust coming out by the transform when I took a closer look and there is the bellows ripped.. Hmm maybe that is making my plane times a bit slower as well.

I also noticed the exhaust bellow under the dog house a a bit ripped as well and that will need to be replaced.
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

A ripped exhaust bellows won't make a difference in performance.

There are no exhaust bellows in the engine compartment. There is a small exhaust tube between the riser and the exhaust pipe going to the sterndrive though. If that is damaged, you would get exhaust and water in your engine compartment and fill your boat with CO.

Did you change your fuel filters and check your timing?
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

I just got the fuel filters today along with the wires, cap and rotor. Once that is replaced, I will check the timing. The exhaust bellow will be ok to live with until I get a replacement? Yes, it drips some water in the engine compartment..
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

fuel filter and spark plug wires were wrong... nice!!
The cap and rotor were correct.

I am going to check the timing tomorrow
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Timing is OK, got the correct fuel/water seperator filter, I cannot find the wires for it.
I ordered the exhaust bellow for it along with the adhesive.

I cannot find the exhaust tube for sale anywhere, could a rubber tube from home depot work or does it have a valve in it, I didn't take it off, so I have no idea...
 

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Re: New Owner 1992 OMC Cobra 3.0L -Questions

Yep, that is it. It has a tear at the bottom clamp.
 
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