the starcraft islander rescue.....sorta.....got some work ahead!

InMotion

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Nice work Bob!!! Glad to see all your hard work paid off and she is now how for "reconditioning"! :)

Looking forward to seeing the next phase!

J.
 

jasoutside

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Great job getting her dug out and drug home! Now the project really begins eh!
 

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NICE!!!! Great job getting it home. I'll be looking forward to the reading of the rebuild thread.
 

elkhunter338

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I just got rid of all 4 of my fenders and put new ones on that fit the wider tires. Got a love those dilly trailers.
Mines finally ok with new axles, tires, added carpet bunks, reinforced tonge, new axle hangers, and just added led lights.
 

bob johnson

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I went to look at a trailer to scavenge the axle off of for my starcrafts trailer...galvanized shorelander...the trailer was excellent!! and the axles fits, except the tires are 14's( no big deal and one is way low)

BUT the guy also had a room full of new parts for boats and motors for sale as well..it was a closed down marine parts-boat yard...they have a ton of junk around as well as good stuff...he sold me the whole room of parts for $500



so that ate my cash for the trailer...even after he dropped the trailer price to $200....might go back next week.

i scored at least $10-$15K worth of parts!!!

took me 2 hours to laod it into my truck and a 6x12 flatbed!!

about 15 gallon containers of high end 2 stroke oil, gallons and gallons of Pettit paints, gallons of cleaners, dozens of spray can...paint, prep, grease ect....

dozens of brand new guages, 100's of champion marine spark plus as well as NGKs...dozens of water pump kits.. at least three complete caliper barke kits for trailers.. and one electric drum brake kit.. all kinds of trailer parts light kits, wires. dozens of stereoes and speakers.. a whole wall of gaskets sets..
all kinds of wake board tower hardware and light kits!! three shelves of FACTORY MANUALS!! wow they were heavys...all kind of electrical parts battery switches cables...tons of stuff i have no clue!!! dozens of top end life jackets... some alternators and starters, bunk kits tounge jacks, anchors.....insane the amount of stuff i got.....all becayse i wanted to look at a trailer axle for my new starcraft islander!!!

I got a disc brake caliper set with rotors that looks like its for the biggest trailer you could imagine... the rotors are about 20" in dia!!! each caliper weighs about 30 lbs!!

i am set for the annual boat flea market next year!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha


bob
 

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Great score, hate to hear it set you back on the axle, but maybe after you start selling off some of the parts & pieces of the 'collection', you'll hardly care if you miss out on the used axle & trailer.

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yeah no issue with the trailer for now..thats a summer project anyway. I forgot to mention the dozen or so props I got along with apile of hubs that allow a generic no splined prop to fit on a bunch of different motors... plus boxes and boxes of gas linne and water hosees.. and a gazillion anodes of all shapes and sizes

plus a bunch of teleflex steering and control cables

im actually worried about trying to figure what it all fits


bob
 

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Re: the starcraft islander rescue.....sorta.....got some work ahead!

yeah no issue with the trailer for now..thats a summer project anyway. I forgot to mention the dozen or so props I got along with apile of hubs that allow a generic no splined prop to fit on a bunch of different motors... plus boxes and boxes of gas linne and water hosees.. and a gazillion anodes of all shapes and sizes

plus a bunch of teleflex steering and control cables

im actually worried about trying to figure what it all fits


bob

Bob that's an excellent problem to have --- too much inventory or useful boat parts for pennies on the dollar!!! :) Sounds like a fantastic find! Shoot some pics up of the find!

Have you got a name for your new parts company yet? :D Of course kidding... but seriously, good for you being in the right place at the right time!

Jim
 

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Props, steering & control cables all 'should' have a # on it.

Don't sweat trying to figure out what it fits, the #'s should tell you what it is. If you sell them, using the # the buyer can figure out if it fits ;)


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is your friend, and the internet rocks for tracking info like this down. Sometimes even very old model #'s
 

CheapboatKev

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I see an E Bay store in your future
 

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That's steppin' in it. Bob. You may have just financed the whole rebuild.
 

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I am going to try and convince my son...who uses Ebay often to deal this stuff..

look at these two items!

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the back of the truck!

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i think there are over 200 spark plugs!!!

plus 13 one gallon containers of BRP synthetic 2 stroke oil!!

I have 50 feet of gas line in three different IDs!!

bob
 

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The BRP synthetic 2 stroke oil goes from $45 to $55 per gallon at retail and online. if you sold for $35 you would have made all of your money back! nice score. FYI that oil is needed in older seadoo PWC's and snowmobiles.
 

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That 6 cyl motor in your boat, once set up and working is one of the best motors there ever was. It runs like a sewing machine and is very relyable. I have compleatly rebuilt one just like it and that motor is a dream of simplicity and efficiency.
 

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That 6 cyl motor in your boat, once set up and working is one of the best motors there ever was. It runs like a sewing machine and is very relyable. I have compleatly rebuilt one just like it and that motor is a dream of simplicity and efficiency.

did you go with new pistons and rings? if so did it have to get rebored?

what was the total cost of the rebuild and how much tyime did it consume doing?

that marina i bought all that stuff from is cutting up a fiberglass bow rider with a 165 HP inline 6 like mine...but i am sure it is newer...he said hell take the motor to the junkyard and get .08cents a lb.... i am thinking maybe it will be worth it to grab it for parts...but since it isnt running, I am wondering what could be usefull?

bob
 

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did you go with new pistons and rings? if so did it have to get rebored?

what was the total cost of the rebuild and how much tyime did it consume doing?

that marina i bought all that stuff from is cutting up a fiberglass bow rider with a 165 HP inline 6 like mine...but i am sure it is newer...he said hell take the motor to the junkyard and get .08cents a lb.... i am thinking maybe it will be worth it to grab it for parts...but since it isnt running, I am wondering what could be usefull?

bob

I paid to have mine totaly rebuilt for about $700. and that was a pro doing the work and for everything, later I found out how unneeded that was.

Normally it may need just some cleaning up. If you take it apart and all you have is light rust, don?t worry about it. Forget what all the inexperienced will say, this motor will be fine if light rust is all you have.

Sand with some 2k grit or hone, clean all the "gum" out, clean rings and reuse unless something is obviously wrong, replace the seals and gaskets. There are only a few things you need to watch, and that?s the inside of the distributor make sure its clean and no rust, if rusty you can sandblast and paint but better to find one with no rust. The other is a carb and that is tricky because this motor will run with a junky carb pretty well but great with a nice one.

I have seen them work fine with pits 1/23 deep and as big as a dime by the way.
I have also seen these motors burn 2 main bearings and then be able to limp home at 4 mph for 10 miles because an obstruction stopped the cooling water. That?s impressive for any motor, and it didn?t to any other further damage, just popped out the burnt ones dropped in a couple of new ones and it was good to go.

Here is a interesting story, not a recommendation?
I had a buddy that got one, totally seized up, pulled plugs and shot some PB blaster in all the holes heavy and left if for a couple of days, we pulled the heads and the cyl were rusted pretty bad couldn?t move the pistons. We took a block of wood and started to beat on them getting them to move a little. He said ?that?s good lets sand it now? and he took a die grinder with a rubber drum sander for wood working and sanded all the rust out with it that was showing! Then we move the pistons until the work freely and he sanded all the rest of the rust out.

Now my disclaimer is that he is sort of crazy, he then took the old head gasket and heated the solid rings in the gasket that goes around the pistons with a torch and plopped it back on and bolted the head down. He had a good carb and distributor for it, and he did wash out the lower end. That crazy motor started up as fast as a new motor and ran for 8 years strong that I know of and is still going fine. The total cost to him was $4.00 in a couple of drums for his die grinders sanding drum and sparkplugs. The cheap devil didn?t even get new gaskets, or wires but I would not recommend that, it?s just and interesting story of just how these motors are not fussy.

It has great mid-range power, its not a top end screamer motor, but a solid cruising motor. It pushed my StarCraft 21? about 25 mph (gps) fully loaded at a calm rpm with tremendous gas mileage. Its not a high compression motor so it likes higher octane fuel but it only sips it.

Grab the other one for parts, as the manifold is worth it alone, and of course there may be other parts as well.

I have worked on a lot of motors from 4 cyl to 8?s and the straight six is my favorite for power to weight and durability issues. That?s why you see so many in older boats they never die, only seize up from being left out in the weather. Mine had 300+ hrs and ran like it was bran new after rebuilding and is still going strong with new owners for another 300 hrs.
 

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From the Admiral & I to you & yours:
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May you have a great weekend & enjoy the company of friends & family....

John
 

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Hey Bob, I haven't had a chance to check out you whole thread here, but saw your comment in another thread about cutting the cuddly of and going to a o/b pod. Thought you might want to check out Cobia's thread.

http://forums.iboats.com/starcraft-boats/1971-starcraft-21-islander-custom-build-467384.html
that's a great thread... I am contemplated what to do with my gunnels once I cut the top off.... Id like to leave the wood out though!....I have found an offshore bracket similar to that one for about $300, but I had wanted the flotation and the swim platform.....but they are too expensive..and I think too much work to make... so last night I has resigned myself to cutting the traonsom for an outboard and making a splash well with a drop down inner wall, like the big 22 ft mariners!... I can rivet that all together and weld in reinforcments to the stringers....for the reinforments I only have to stitch weld...for a outboard bracket with flotation, Id have to do a 100 % weld! and I only have a TIG machine!...here is the motor ready to come out:
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here is a water leak test( at least up to the outdrive hole) passed( it got cold last night!!) ..zero leaks..this hull is a super clean fresh water hull..
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... this is what she used to look like:
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.......... bob
 
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