Total Mayhem At The Boat!! (Totally Screwed)

[lkbum]

Re: Total Mayhem At The Boat!! (Totally Screwed)

While not the ideal fix it is FAR from being bad advice.

I disagree, good advice would be to get someone to help the OP with the problem at the boat, either a knowledgable friend or a hired pro.

 

[BigDog98]

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Guys , ill get it done if its the last thing that kills me!! That whole entire plug is getting replaced! I am not drilling any new holes in the boat!

 

[Fun Times]

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Guys , ill get it done if its the last thing that kills me!! That whole entire plug is getting replaced! I am not drilling any new holes in the boat!

And let's leave it at that until he gets the plug out one way or another. Thanks guys.

 

[tazrig]

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AGREED :facepalm:

 

[UncleWillie]

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My concern about applying that much brute force to a bolt in the transom that the OP claims is stuck solid is that if the transom is not 100% he may end up needing glass work on top of everything else. Thats why I suggested just drilling another drain hole and be done with it. (hopefully)

I have removed a Transom Garboard Plug Flange and it it is not attached anywhere near as well as you might think.
Remove the mounting screws and crank on the plug. The flange adhesive/caulk just shears off and releases; it comes off cleanly!

The TRANSOM is NOT IN ANY WAY part of this situation... His plug is in the BOTTOM of the boat amidships...

An earlier Post(#54), he asked if the garboard plug he was buying was the correct one.
I wasn't aware that some boats have garboard plugs on the bottom of the hull amidships.
Is this a standard garboard plug on the hull bottom with the plug head sticking out into water flow?
I can't picture that as being reasonable! Anyone have a picture of one as an example?

So I assume it is a fitting with the flange on the outside of the hull with the plug inserted from the inside.
In which case the Flange Mounting screws are going to be on the outside also.

If drilling out the plug from the outside inward, there will be no need for any Left hand drills.
The plug will screw Into the boat to be removed. Normal right hand drills will do the job.
Once the drill loosens up the plug, the drill will eventually grab the plug and unscrew it INTO the boat.

It is hard to believe that a thread about a stuck plug and some melting ice has gone over 125 posts!
It sure has been a long cold winter!

 

[smokeonthewater]

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some have the flange on the bottom and plug inside and some have the plug and flange inside.

some have a square head and others have a t handle

 

[saumon]

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If drilling out the plug from the outside inward, there will be no need for any Left hand drills.
The plug will screw Into the boat to be removed. Normal right hand drills will do the job.
Once the drill loosens up the plug, the drill will eventually grab the plug and unscrew it INTO the boat.

You were right, my mistake. I didn't take into consideration that he'll be drilling from the outside.

 

[smokeonthewater]

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doesn't much matter... if that plug won't come out with a wrench and a strong arm, it ain't gonna come out while drilling except in tiny pieces.

 

[JimS123]

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I have removed a Transom Garboard Plug Flange and it it is not attached anywhere near as well as you might think.
Remove the mounting screws and crank on the plug. The flange adhesive/caulk just shears off and releases; it comes off cleanly!



An earlier Post(#54), he asked if the garboard plug he was buying was the correct one.
I wasn't aware that some boats have garboard plugs on the bottom of the hull amidships.
Is this a standard garboard plug on the hull bottom with the plug head sticking out into water flow?
I can't picture that as being reasonable! Anyone have a picture of one as an example?

So I assume it is a fitting with the flange on the outside of the hull with the plug inserted from the inside.
In which case the Flange Mounting screws are going to be on the outside also.

If drilling out the plug from the outside inward, there will be no need for any Left hand drills.
The plug will screw Into the boat to be removed. Normal right hand drills will do the job.
Once the drill loosens up the plug, the drill will eventually grab the plug and unscrew it INTO the boat.

It is hard to believe that a thread about a stuck plug and some melting ice has gone over 125 posts!
It sure has been a long cold winter!

The garboard is on the bottom of the boat. ALL garboard plugs are on the bottom. If its in the transom its a transom plug. Of course, some people buy garboard plugs and install them in the transom.

Uggghhh the bad use of terminology just gets me.....LOL. (just google it guys!)

Anyhoot, if its in the bottom the plug is always screwed in from the inside of the boat. If its in the transom its from outside.

Its a plug not a threaded rod. Its tapered so it goes in only one way. cant remove it from or through the other side.

The "proper" way to install a plug on the garboard plank is to put a brass fitting on both sides of the bottom, so the hole is fully sealed up. Just google Perko or the like and you'll see they come one sided or 2-sided.

 

[CharlieB]

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If you do have a plug thru the hull screwed in from the inside of the boat then the ice is covering it.

Drill thru the plug from the outside. If ANY of the hole threads are still visable use the largest drill bit that will barely fit in. It won't drill the plug well but that's OK, you just want to 'mark' the center of the plug so the hole you drill is as well centered as is possible. Use a small bit and drill a pilot hole thru the plug then progress to a large bit, finally that absolutley largest bit that fits thru the threads. You want to be careful and not damage and threads.

If you can locate an exteded length bit use that to finish drilling up thru the ice so any water on the surface now has an exit.

Forget the rest of the plug until after the thaw. If most of the plug is drilled out then you might get lucky and use a pipe tape and cut the remainder of the pllug out, Go slow and back out to break chips and clear the hole as you go. Turn the tap in 1/4 to 1/2 turn and back out, repeat until done. Have patience. But again, wait until after the thaw so there is no ice in your way.

Once you have a well established drain, grab a garden hose, turned on slow, and start scrubbing the decks, bilge, etc. The water will drain out, melting some of the ice while on its way.

 

[desertrat301]

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I have got to reiterate something here. Pounding on the ice now will not be any different than pounding on your hull. Put a heater in it and let it thaw. The water damage is done don't make it worse with a hammer.

Also A thought on the heater problem. How about a trough heater? I use one for my dogs water an another for my pond. They do not get very hot but will not let the water refreeze. Try a submersible bucket heater. They are safe for use in plastic buckets. I would start by thawing around the drain then moving the heater up into different areas of the boat. You can just set the heater on the ice and it should start working. If you have concerns about the heat just plug it in. It probably wont even get hot. You have to get them cold in a freezer just to test them. This should be a safe way to unthaw it while you are away.

Good luck

 

[BigDog98]

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Finally got the plug out with ease and just removed those screws and pulled that plug out!

 

[UncleWillie]

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Finally got the plug out with ease and just removed those screws and pulled that plug out!

:clap2: Now we're getting somewhere! :cheer2:

 

[BigDog98]

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[BigDog98]

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:clap2: Now we're getting somewhere! :cheer2:

Watch the video! You will be surprised!!

 

[bruceb58]

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Finally got the plug out with ease and just removed those screws and pulled that plug out!

Ahhh...you mean exactly the way we told you last November!

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Chalk it up to a valuable lesson learned. Now let her thaw out and then address the issues.......

 

[BigDog98]

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Chalk it up to a valuable lesson learned. Now let her thaw out and then address the issues.......

Will do! Was surprised how much water was there. Ran like that in the video for like 15 min!

 

[BigDog98]

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The good thing is that the ice is melting fast! All the ice that i had in the cabin melted through the weekend.

 

[smokeonthewater]

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Well WTH? Now we're back to it being a TRANSOM plug....... REALLY frustrating trying to help if we can't get correct info


anyhow congrats on getting it out