Use the Sherman anti-trust act

txswinner

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Any opposition to busting up a few corporations such as Exxon Mobil down to about 10 parts and maybe a few otheers, I would gladly vote for any who support such actions.
 

heycods

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Apreaciate your vote, I cant figure out how all thes last ten years mergers took place. I worked for Phillips and our division was merged with Chevron right befour Phillips merged with Conaco. All these mergers were under the Radar as far as national coverage went. looks like Standard oil is back in business with aproval of the Dems and repubs. to me.
 

rolmops

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Re: Use the Sherman anti-trust act

It is very hard to bust the company that is the employer of our president.
 

heycods

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These mergers started happening a long time befour W took office. All that had an effect on my retirement hapened prior to 2000.
 

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Welcome to the world of the Mega-Corp. Fictitious entities have now risen to the point of having more inalienable rights than We the People. So stop complaining you pinko-lib-commies. Mega-Corp knows what's best for you and they'll lobby (bribe) congress to make sure it's the law.<br /><br />Us rich folk like Mega-Corp 'cause they give us nice dividends to shut up. And as far as you poor folk, well, Mega-Corp has you handled as well. Iff'n ya gets a bit uppity we'll throw ya a bone to shut ya up for a while! What's a 10 cent drop in petrol when they only need to do it for a week to soothe the savage beast?<br /><br />Capitalista is king! <br /><br />Organized religion, the champion of poor folk has joined forces with Mega-Corp! Witness all the 501(c) Mega-Churches out there. So it looks like you're outta luck there.<br /><br />Bummer :(
 

heycods

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Technofrog????Naaaa too plain spoken souns more like the new TX-frog ;) :D <br />I think the majors have been getting thier ducks in a row for this for 15 years.
 

RubberFrog

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Cods, I'm trying to be like the big kids and repetitiously obloviate my tired creed every chance I get. Sure is a lot of work taking three paragraphs to get across what I could have done with a one liner and a smiley!
 

POINTER94

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Repeat something often enough and the uneducated might start to believe you. What exactly are we to do with BP?
 

heycods

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Old style worked for me, it was easier than trying to decypher technolarguswordus. ;) :D
 

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Sherman doesn't apply. Nobody has a monopoly on the industry. Five majors in serious competition with one another do not constitute a monopoly. Also, they are mainly international companies so even if Congress wanted to they would have very limited authority.
 

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Mega-Corp oligopoly. Can't touch it.
 
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DJ

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JB, is right on.<br /><br />Has anyone thought that mega corps are necessary to battle a mega government?
 

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Does not anyone in this country understand this energy problem we are in?<br /><br />The basic problem is too little supply chasing too high of demand. Breaking up oil companies, reducing fuel taxes, windfall profits taxes and the like are all counter productive to what is needed.<br /><br />Tom Friedman, in a recent NYT column, suggested who needs Al-qaida, when we have the US congress on the job doing their work!<br /><br />The way to balance supply and demand is what we learned in Econ 101--Let the price raise to the point where it changes behavior, and reduces demand.<br /><br />The quickest way to achieve this is to raise prices by increasing the fuel tax, and spend the extra revenue by improving mass transit and funding a "Manhattan" type project for alternative fuels.<br /><br />The only way to get serious about reducing our need for Foreign oil is to reduce the demand for it, and make alternatives cost effective. Anything else is just blowing smoke
 

heycods

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[ Some more of that slow dial up, and hitting the back button carp. DOUBLE POST THREE REPLYS APART :( :( :( :( .<br /><br />Tx does put some thought into his Trolls dont he.<br />Goodun TX, outa make 100 easy
 

RubberFrog

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Originally posted by PW2:<br />The quickest way to achieve this is to raise prices by increasing the fuel tax....
I was reading along trying to take you serious and then that classic liberal jumped out and started talking about raising taxes. Taxes are not the solution to our problems. How are all your illegal immigrant friends going to be able to drive to work if you raise the fuel tax?
 

heycods

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Originally posted by JB:<br /> Sherman doesn't apply. Nobody has a monopoly on the industry. Five majors in serious competition with one another do not constitute a monopoly. Also, they are mainly international companies so even if Congress wanted to they would have very limited authority.
I dont think its serious compettion, I think its more "you scratch my back and Ill scratch yours"<br />Lets share lobbiest, or as in my Cos deal lets merge our loosing money polyethline businesss and push out the competition.<br /> Dont get me wrong Im not griping I put in 6% of wages to Co. stock and the Co. matched it, Im more than making up the difference in the cost of gas to me.
 

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I was cookin along with PW's post, following his capitalistic model of supply and demand and then, out of nowhere, lets raise taxes. You almost had me believing your train of thought and then WHAPP! like a sledge to the face. Infuse government into private industry. It never works, unless you are the government.<br /><br />As I posted earlier what is Nancy or Harry going to do to an overseas corporation? BP would be sitting over in London laughing at us. Yea, we'll show those jerks over there, we will tax our citizens into the poor house. That will show em!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
 

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So what we are doing is working?<br /><br />Seems to me we are funding both sides of this war we are in, and are bound to continue forever if we maintain the same policies.<br /><br />And you want oil companies to voluntarily change and lead us to alternative energy sources, when by continuing exactly what they are currently doing offers them, and their stockholders record breaking profits and returns, with virtually no risk?<br /><br />And this plan of yours makes sense how?<br /><br />I realise that my tax idea will have no political traction, and is not advocated by any political group that I am aware. <br /><br />I am saying we, like the President said, are addicted to oil, and all of the solutions offered so far seem to have as their goal to make the drug easier for the addict to afford.
 
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Granted. We can look for alternative sources of fuel. We, the US, will be the only ones-severely hampering our economy.<br /><br />Granted. Venezuela can run on ethanol-great for them. Try starting a vehicle on it in North Dakota, in January.<br /><br />Granted. We can force companies to make alt. fuel cars. The problem is: Will you buy one? NOPE! The US auto industry is 17M units/year. Alt. fuel makes up less than 1% and they are HARD to sell.<br /><br />Fact: We have plenty of oil and its derivatives.<br /><br />Fact: We have a processing/utilization problem, NOT a supply problem.<br /><br />Question: WHY do we have more than 18 different blends of gasoline? That is insanity.<br /><br />Fact: The only, MOST EXPENSIVE, NON-variable, in petroleum costs (consumer) is TAXES.<br /><br />The last two facts are GOVERNMENT IMPOSED. We want them making our decisions? I think-NOT!
 

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Has anyone thought that mega corps are necessary to battle a mega government?
Looks like they are the same to me,buy the way heres a hundred bucks :rolleyes: go get some gas.
 
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