Why do they-------??

[mla2ofus]

Meaning big brother, see a need to always move the time change around to different Sundays? Is there a logical reason for this????
Mike

 

[eaglejim]

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I don't know why or what the reason is for what weekend but I was up at 5:30 this morning my brain knew about the time change but my body said it was time to get up, big brother can't control everything

 

[mscher]

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Supposedly. Energy savings?

http://www.hvpress.net/news/125/ARTICLE/8185/2009-10-30.html

 

[Bob_VT]

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I had heard a rumor at one time...... that the kingsford charcoal people were behind the change of weeks to the time change..... they lobbied for it to extend the time available to BBQ which would increase BBQ supply sales and food sales.

I do not know how true it is but, it sounds about right.

 

[HVAC Cruiser]

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I have heard that it was started for farmers to make better use of daylight hrs. This is actually not true though for they have to work during daylight hrs regardless what the clock says.

Daylight savings time was originally used by the railroad to standardize their schedule across time zones. from what I have read was adopted by the gov during WW1 to reduce fuel consumption for artificial lighting. It is still used today with the idea that it conserves energy. Whether or not it does is another story

 

[dolluper]

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So you get the xtra sleep you need

 

[BoatBuoy]

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I have no idea, but I do remember reading a reprint in the paper of a letter sent by a farmer one spring. He was complaining that the extra hour of sunlight in the evening, due to DST, was burning up his young tomato plants.

 

[lowkee]

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...was adopted by the gov during WW1 to reduce fuel consumption for artificial lighting

This is the same as I've read. It was first 'officially' brought up by Ben Franklin as a means to conserve energy. I'm dubious as to how, in a 9-6 era, this conserves anything, as it means everyone must drive with headlights and the cold hours of night are beginning just as people get home, so the heat is run longer and the home lights are always on (they are essentially 'staying up late' in the fall). I'm not a morning person, so I have no idea what happens in the morning :redface:

The part which drives me nuts are the people who think the time change is related to kids and school. Seriously, your government school spawn children are not that important.

 

[HVAC Cruiser]

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I have no idea, but I do remember reading a reprint in the paper of a letter sent by a farmer one spring. He was complaining that the extra hour of sunlight in the evening, due to DST, was burning up his young tomato plants.

Hey BoatBuoy, Guess the government controls more than we realize lol

We should start a petition to get them to cut down on rain days so we can work and play on our boats more

 

[rbh]

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I have heard that it was started for farmers to make better use of daylight hrs. This is actually not true though for they have to work during daylight hrs regardless what the clock says.

Daylight savings time was originally used by the railroad to standardize their schedule across time zones. from what I have read was adopted by the gov during WW1 to reduce fuel consumption for artificial lighting. It is still used today with the idea that it conserves energy. Whether or not it does is another story

You can thank Sir Sanford Fleming and the CPR for that one.

 

[DavidW2009]

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IMO, it would be better to go back to the old system of each municipality setting their own time. That is the more natural way, since there is always a big difference in sun rise/sun set between the eastern edge of a time zone and the western edge.

There is no logic to switching time from standard to daylight savings (misnomer, no daylight is "saved"). The PTB, IMO, use it to keep our biological clocks off balance.

It's just another manifestation of their control over us.

 

[mla2ofus]

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Personally I wish they'd just do away w/ it. The part I don't understand is why they constantly change the Sunday it starts and stops. Why can't that be standardized????
Mike

 

[Knightgang]

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Personally I wish they'd just do away w/ it. The part I don't understand is why they constantly change the Sunday it starts and stops. Why can't that be standardized????
Mike

Well, they always want to do it over the middle of a weekend, logical enough... That way, if someone does not change a time, they would have a day to hopefully figure it out and important schdules, events, deliveries, etc. would not get missed...

However, the fall change used to come earlier and the spring change later... We used to have right at about 6 months of each time situation, but in 2005 or 2006, (can't remember which) the Spring time change moved to earlier in the year and the fall time moved back later. So now, we fall back right around the 1st of November (last Sunday of Oct, 1st one of Nov) and I can;t remember the Spring time now, but I think it is Early March (correct me if I am wrong) So we actually have 8 months of Daylight savings and 4 months of standard. Standard time is over the winter and Savings time is over the summer in case someone had them backwards...

I was started to conserve energy (both in manufacturing and in the household) by allowing the time to reflect the start of the normal workday with the rise of light and extending that daylight as far into the evening as possible.

I wish they would split the difference by 30 minutes and just leave it alone for evermore...

 

[WIMUSKY]

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I really dislike it. It's dark around 5:20pm now. Makes for even a longer winter in my book...

 

[gonefishie]

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I really dislike it. It's dark around 5:20pm now. Makes for even a longer winter in my book...

Yeah but the sun is coming up on my morning commute. It was still pitch black last Friday.

 

[HondaPower]

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Up my way it always seems to change on the opening weekend of deer season. I always thought it was their method of stopping you getting in a hour or so of hunting after work. I maybe misguided in this belief but it has always worked out so well that it must be true.

 

[mscher]

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I never could really understand the time change whining.

The first 25 years I lived in Indiana (no change), so the only difference was the daily TV news announcing that the time was 1 hour different in OH and MI.

The second 25 years, after joining the Military, I experienced it twice a year, now even in Indiana. You change the clocks and it's a little darker or lighter the next day.

But, then I never have really known what a sleep cycle is, with kid's, dogs and a truck driving job.

 

[DECK SWABBER 58]

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Well, they always want to do it over the middle of a weekend, logical enough... That way, if someone does not change a time, they would have a day to hopefully figure it out and important schdules, events, deliveries, etc. would not get missed...

However, the fall change used to come earlier and the spring change later... We used to have right at about 6 months of each time situation, but in 2005 or 2006, (can't remember which) the Spring time change moved to earlier in the year and the fall time moved back later. So now, we fall back right around the 1st of November (last Sunday of Oct, 1st one of Nov) and I can;t remember the Spring time now, but I think it is Early March (correct me if I am wrong) So we actually have 8 months of Daylight savings and 4 months of standard. Standard time is over the winter and Savings time is over the summer in case someone had them backwards...

I was started to conserve energy (both in manufacturing and in the household) by allowing the time to reflect the start of the normal workday with the rise of light and extending that daylight as far into the evening as possible.

I wish they would split the difference by 30 minutes and just leave it alone for evermore...

You are the only one that got it right.

 

[greggholmes]

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"Daylight saving time (DST) is the practice of advancing clocks so that afternoons have more daylight and mornings have less."

"Adding daylight to afternoons benefits retailing, sports, and other activities that exploit sunlight after working hours,[3] but causes problems for farming, evening entertainment and other occupations tied to the sun.[4][5] Traffic fatalities are reduced when there is extra afternoon daylight;"

"Modern DST was first proposed by the New Zealand entomologist George Vernon Hudson, whose shift-work job gave him leisure time to collect insects, and made him aware of the value of after-hours daylight.[2] In 1895 he presented a paper to the Wellington Philosophical Society proposing a two-hour daylight-saving shift,[19] and after considerable interest was expressed in Christchurch, New Zealand he followed up in an 1898 paper.[20] Many publications incorrectly credit DST's invention to the prominent English builder and outdoorsman William Willett,[21] who independently conceived DST in 1905 during a pre-breakfast ride, when he observed with dismay how many Londoners slept through a large part of a summer day.[22] An avid golfer, he also disliked cutting short his round at dusk.[23] His solution was to advance the clock during the summer months, a proposal he published two years later.[24]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

 

[v1_0]

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This is the same as I've read. It was first 'officially' brought up by Ben Franklin as a means to conserve energy. I'm dubious as to how, in a 9-6 era, this conserves anything, as it means everyone must drive with headlights and the cold hours of night are beginning just as people get home, so the heat is run longer and the home lights are always on (they are essentially 'staying up late' in the fall).

You are operating on a mistaken assumption. The energy savings is NOT FOR individual people, but for BUSINESSES.