why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

QC

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

What I am getting from this thread is that I really, really, really want to try some fatty Mammoth Rib Eyes . . .
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

I am NOT a kook/conspiracy thoerist.

However, I know my history.

Look at films from 1900 to 1970. Most, if not all, people were thin.

What changed?

...2. Our foods are 100% "processed". We don't buy fruits and vegetibles-daily. Not to mention "fresh" meats-not frozen or processed.....

And I would add that almost everything has the very very fattening "high fructose corn syrup" in it, one of the main causes of obesity, even worse than sugar.

My family doesn't understand it when I tell them that I only eat because I have to do it to stay alive. I honestly don't crave any foods. Lucky I guess.
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

They've always told me, "You are what you eat".

So I stay away from pork butt and hot dogs, and concentrate on hero sandwiches.

Some guy, years ago, thought that some foods characterized the members of a crime family.

There was the boss - Eggs Benedict.
The gang coward was Chicken Cacciatore.
The enforcer was Beef Stroganoff.
And the hit man's name was Veal Scallopini.
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

How is high fructose corn syrup worse than sugar? It is sugar . . . None of this stuff is fattening, it is calories in vs. calories burnt when it comes to "fattening". Our bodies store excess calories in the form of fat to use later. Doesn't really matter where the calories come from, just that there are some left over at the end of the day. That's my take on this anyway . . . And worth every penny you paid for it ;)
 

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The problem with sugar - in almost any form - is that it's readily digestible, and goes directly into the blood stream. Same amount of calories in something else, complex carbohydrates for example, will not be absorbed as readily, and some - even most - of it may be excreted rather than digested. So calorie count is only one element of the equation.

Lots of fiber in a sweet dish or one of simple carbs will retard absorption also.
 

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i always thought margerine was healthier than butter. the nutritional facts look better on the margerine.

The ants and other bugs wont even try and eat margarine if left out of the fridge, i dont even think it goes mouldly if exposed? thats got to say something... mind you butter is probably not that good for you either "butter natures assassin".
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

...And one more thing; a comment for the vegans:

If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did He make 'em out of meat?
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

The problem with sugar - in almost any form - is that it's readily digestible, and goes directly into the blood stream. Same amount of calories in something else, complex carbohydrates for example, will not be absorbed as readily, and some - even most - of it may be excreted rather than digested. So calorie count is only one element of the equation
OK, I'll go with that. My reaction was to high fructose corn syrup vs. sugar. BTW, I eat very little sugar, it's just that left over anything nutritive, is "fattening". Could be 100% lean chicken, if there's more in than you burn, it will be stored as fat.
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

None of this stuff is fattening, it is calories in vs. calories burnt when it comes to "fattening".

Going to have to disagree here. Without processing you don't get the Fructose/Glucose concentration that you get in table sugar, or HFCS. As to the calories in/calories out, you are not considering what each of these substances do to your body chemistry. Glucose is used directly in the cells and can be metabolized anywhere in the body. It is regulated by your insulin response mechanism. Fructose is a different animal. If your body can't immediately use fructose (which is usually the case when you use HFCS or excess table sugar, since your body has an affinity for glucose), it is processed in the liver instead (Incidentally, since fructose is not regulated by your insulin response mechanism, it is considered "safe" for diabetics, but it still can do significant damage to your body). In very simplistic terms, the Fructose is metabolized by the liver to become the backbone of a triglyceride, which in turn either exists as serum triglyceride (stuff measured by your doctor and must be kept at a low level), or combines to become VLDL Cholesterol (which is really, really bad for your blood chemistry but is typically not measured separately from your LDL Cholesterol. VLDL is why LDL is considered to be the "bad" cholesterol). The result of excess trigs or VLDL in your body is Fatty Liver disease and/or arterial plaques which lead to arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries).

Sorry for the long-winded response, but I just want to make the point that it is not all about calories in/calories out. You have to consider what food does to our bodies overall before you use any of it for nutrition. I tend to keep to a fairly high protein diet, but only because I lift weights and feel that a high proportion of protein is necessary for my fitness goals. If I were a distance runner or some other kind of endurance athlete, I would probably favor carbohydrates for sustainable energy. I still feel that if we consume food in the appropriate quantities in the form which nature provides, we are doing what is best for ourselves.

Note that nature provides beef, chicken, pork, and fish along with vegetables, fruits, nuts, and grains. Its all good for us, and we should be eating some of everything as the omnivores that we are.

Rgds
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

Worlds biggest oxymoron is SOYA MILK, never seen a herd of soya's get milked by a farmer.

And TOFO, the stuff that can taste like anything else just, soak it in the flavour of what you want it to taste like????

For that reason I just eat the stuff that taste the way it should without the soaking!!! :)
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

Point taken Eric. I used to follow an Atkins diet and believed his BS about Diabetic Ketosis and the benefits of how that allowed you to eat more calories than you could on other diets. Saw a reasonably controlled test though that showed what really happened was people got sick of eating all of the fats and proteins and pushed their plate away earlier and ultimately it was back to calories in vs. calories burnt. The Atkins group did lose more weight than any of the other diets compared in the test, but it came down to the count, not the chemistry.

That doesn't mean that all foods are equal and I didn't mean to infer that, but . . . the math does matter.

OK, and one more question/point. Is Eric saying that fructose is potentially more dangerous than table sugar? Wouldn't that suggest that fruit was bad if you got the vitamins and fiber from somewhere else like a pill and some celery???? Huh? Huh? My ultimate point is wait a week and somebody will tell you that water is unhealthy. Oh, did you know there is no proof that a quart of water a day or 8 - 8 ounce glasses, or whatever quantity they say, has any health benefits whatsoever? I just don't believe anything anymore, even the diet study that I cited . . . :eek: :rolleyes: :)
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

Point taken, QC. Although the amount of fructose in a piece of fruit vs the concentration of fructose in HFCS is the deciding factor here. Even medical professionals warn you to limit your intake of fruit juices, but not so much against eating whole fruits within reason...

My point is we can eat anything we damn well please, as long as it is in appropriate quantities. Problem is that an "appropriate quantity" of, say, celery, and an "appropriate quantity" of, say Double Fudge chocolate brownies are probably not the same ;)

Now, where did I leave that plate of chicken wings and nachos!

-E
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

Now, where did I leave that plate of chicken wings and nachos!
I am guessing they disappeared behind that mountain of mashed potatoes and gravy . . . :D
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

eating junk foor and processed food and still burning off all the calories will allow you to stay skinny.
but it may give you something like diabeties. or may be hard on your liver or kidney.

but you won't be fat, if you stay active, and burn more than you take in.
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

Because its an evil plot designed to drive us all insane! Anyone seen my tater chips?



???
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

I eat nothing but organic brown rice, organic oatmeal, organic bran and tofu.
I drink nothing but organic unfiltered prune juice and a little homemade grain alcohol. (organic)

I'm actually 110 but look like 52. :D
 

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It's very simple. Our bodies still crave hunter/gatherer food; and we are couch potatos. When life was harder and we toiled from sunup to sunset we required more calories and could eat anything and stay thin because food was turned to work. You can't sit at a desk all day and eat as if your'e hunting mamoths. All diets have the disclaimer that they are effective with excersise. Forget the diet and concentrate on physical activity. I have worked hard and played hard all my life. I eat red meat, fat and all, candy, french fries, etc. and stay within 5 lbs. of my ideal weight. More than that, either way and I can feel it. So if you want to stay thin and healthy; get off the couch and go hunt some mamoths.:D At least go do SOMETHING physical.
 

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Re: why doesn't healthy food taste good, since it is good for us?

i don't know how cave men ate all meat. i get tired of just protien after a while, and crave carbs.
after eating a bunch or meat, i will be hungry, but not crave more steak.

i guess that would change if i was stranded on a desert island and only had meat.
 

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Take a look at breakfast. It's all the worst foods that you can eat; but our ancestors ate eggs, bacon, potatos, pancakes with syrup, doughnuts, milk. butter; and stayed healthy. It's because they worked hard on the farm, or in the factory. Let's face it; few of us work that hard today and most of us are overweight. Find some way to burn off that food, or don't over eat!
 

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i bet there are a lot more overwieght white collar people, than bule collar.
not many carptenders are fat. they do physical work every day for thier job.
 
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