creation science vs. evolution

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Hey glass, iboats sells them ever day. Just look at the bottom of this page.<br />Be on left side where it says Repair Manuals.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

Re: creation science vs. evolution

Originally posted by 18rabbit:<br />This is the real deal…UFO proof in the works! Fwiw, this group caught the attention of Congress, who passed legislation regarding their efforts.<br /> http://www.disclosureproject.org/

'nuff said on that point.<br />My little buddies are quite a hoot sometimes for sure.

 

[glass from the past]

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That was a joke, I own several manuals for my boat. I come here for the entertainment and to ask questions that ain't in the book. <br /><br />Lubedude's opinions have helped me and I am sure others, I would hate for him to get mad and split that is all. As far as the rest of my rant: Don't say you don't like something someone else says then turn around and say you don't care about anyone elses point of view but your own, that makes no sense, obviously you must have cared, otherwise you wouldn't have been so rude. It's a free country, say what you wish, but everyone else enjoys the same liberty, that's the problem with freedom.

 

[OBJ]

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Hey Spinner....can ya' see the expression on all these guys faces when they find out that WE are right???? JimmyBoBob knows. He's still out thar.

 

[Mod2]

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Gentlemen....<br /><br />Mellowyellows' original post ask the question, simply put:<br /><br />Has anyone dealt with religous groups pressuring the schools to teach "Creation Science" as well as "Evolution Science".<br /><br />From reading the many posts, there is no doubt that we all have varying opinions on the subject of "Creation" vs. "Evolution". <br /><br />I do not deny anyone of there opinion on the forum except when it goes so far as to bash another member for their opinion.<br /><br />Please respect the opinion of others.<br /><br />Nuff said.

 

[18rabbit]

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Hey! MOD2 – you only have 184 posting points!!! How did you get your decoder ring? I want a decoder ring soooooo bad!!!

 

[snapperbait]

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No decoder wing for wabbits, huh huh huh.. <my best Elmer Fudd voice> <br /><br />Wish them there aliens would come pick me an take me home...

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Originally posted by OBJ:<br />Hey Spinner....can ya' see the expression on all these guys faces when they find out that WE are right???? JimmyBoBob knows. He's still out thar.

I keep telling them OBJ but they won't listen.<br />That's ok though cause WE really know the truth.

 

[Boomyal]

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This nation came from undeniably Christian roots. I, for one, would espouse the magnanimous, tolerant, all inclusive view that we should let them teach Evolution, as a theory! <br /><br />How's that Mod2?

 

[ebbtide176]

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MY this is my reply to you, bud <br /><br />I have studied work by those trying to disprove the bible by scientific methods, and a (edited) significant number became believers of creationism. i see that some here want a big debate, and i'm sorry i don't have all of my thoughts ready to give a good understanding to what i have found. i think it is just as important to recognize mans limited knowledge and at least admit there is every bit of possibility in creationism as in evolution, and they're not exclusive, in my understanding. i think i could've given SCO a good run for his money back when i had it all fresh in my mind. i don't need that now, because i'm content with what i believe. <br />there is a boatload of scientific proof to back up the bible ya kno. so while its religion to some, its also a historical record with scientific data & proven events to go by.<br /><br />and that means that if we're teaching evolution and not creationism it is a prejudiced system. i think it is bassackards when someone says that evolution has always been taught. i think they forgot that the Word was around before darwin. <br /><br />my opinion is similar to what joew & boomyal listed. JMHO

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Ok, I for one think that they are trying to teach to much now.<br />It's hard keeping the kids interested in any one thing for any period of time and the more you push on them, the less they learn.<br />That is my opnion and from what I have heard from my 3 girls as they were going thru school.

 

[Mod2]

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Thank you for pointing out my oversite boomyal. I guess I can only contribute my oversite to poor "Evolutionism" or "Creationlism"....which ever you prefer.<br /><br />However...my post still stands. State your opinion without stepping on another members toes.<br /><br />Look 18rabbit...now I'm up to 185.....and NO....decoder ring.

 

[lund17]

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Go back to Trblshtr- Regardless of your belief, he is absolutely correct. The founding fathers by the way were Christians. Their intention was not that there be no church in state but that state did not dictate church. This country was built and achieved greatness on Christian ideals and will founder and die for lack of them. I think it's the greatest country in the world and I am saddened that we have turned our backs on He who provided it.

 

[mattttt25]

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just getting in before this goes away.<br /><br />btw, evolution is science, creation is a belief.

 

[snapperbait]

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Perhaps SBN is onto something?... Teach the basics of science, scientific method and so on, and leave it at that in public school.. A cirriculum without either side of the creation theory/evolution theory being brought up.. Then, leave it up to further college or other outside education and let the student pursue which ever he/she wishes...<br /><br />Dunno if it's possible, but maybe that would satisfy both sides..

 

[snapperbait]

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Another thing I wonder... For arguments sake, I know kids are smart, but just how many school age kids even know what creation or evolution is?

 

[ebbtide176]

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Snapper - that's probably what will have to happen<br /><br />mattt - the only diff in creation & evolution is how you fill in the gaps in the science. for every gap you believe is in creation, there are more in evolution. not everything in life is proven or understood. if you choose to believe thats your perogative. if your belief is that we were a happenchance collision of the perfect combo of material & amino acids in the perfect environment to let it survive, and somehow after yrs we developed the wonderful eyeballs we now have, then ok...

 

[snapperbait]

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Pardon me for seeming argumentative, not my intention here, but i have never personally seen any cold hard scientific evidence whatsoever that pertains to creation.. Would be interesting to read some.. <br /><br />Not interested in bible quotes.. I read it, not a bible scholar but understand most of what I read, enuff, thank you... I'm interested in cold hard scientific evidence.. Stuff that will stand up under scrutiny... If anyone would kindly point me in that direction, thank you....

 

[ebbtide176]

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well snapper i guess you helped me decide on something here. i've been trying to think of what to say for many yrs on that. of course, being a worker makes things go to the back burner, if you know what i mean. <br /><br />i'm not a pro speaker, and i've never tried to expl the way i feel about it now. if everyone would consider this: no matter how hard you dig and how deep you go --for answers from either scientists, historians, or philosophers, even documents & lab experiments, it all boils down to a need for faith. as in faith in a theory as being the real answer. faith in the experiment you've given alot of time into. faith on the one point you've found to span the gap to the other point you've found. <br /><br />and when you realize that all your hard work, mental effort & time have gotten you alot of answers, but still is not a very provable explanation to give to someone who absolutely requires the meaning of life, then you finally realize its all very understandable...<br /><br />the bible will not give you all of the answers to life. you can imagine why that is so, in case you were the creator. <br /><br />and man will forever be searching for the proof, as that is part of the curiousity that makes us test differing theories. we can't be content with a superior power most of the time. we want to be sure. but there are so many unknowns, by the time we find out the truth, you & i will be long gone.<br /><br />now, given this scenario... its still just pure & simple faith. we can try to bridge the huge gaps in our knowledge with big bang, supreme being, aliens, whatever.<br /><br />now tell me, if you understand what i'm trying to say, and you agree its gonna be a leap of faith no matter what you decide is how we came to have this great earth, and everything involved, is it worth it to deny that a supreme being created all of this?<br /><br />sorry to not give you the answer you wanted, but like i wrote before, i don't have all the knowledge handy that i had back when i was contemplating the evolution theory.<br /><br />its all about faith to me bud. i threw out that other stuff. if i turn out to just become worm dirt, then we're even

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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This is all good reading and a lot of different points of view for sure.<br /><br />But like ebb said, long before all the answers are in, we will all be gone in one way or the other.<br /><br />Did we evolve from some creature? I don't know.<br />Did we get created by a higher being? I don't know that either.<br /><br />All I do know is that when you die, your dead, that's a given, so I plan on using my time to enjoy life and worry about all the other when it comes time to.<br /><br />Have a great week end.