Re: What the....?
MW- wvit has a right to post his opinion but I am a troll? I know you are but what am I?

Oh, it takes one to know one

I'm rubber, you're glue.......<br /><br />My post here comes from my outrage at this book, it's author and the fact that he teaches at a seminary. Christians can be outraged. Jesus was when he overturned the tables of the money changers and dove salesmen. He wasn't overjoyed when he said to his own beloved "get thee behind Satan." The fact that such a topic, in and of it's self brings out strong emotional responce from people is not a logical idictment of the topic; but a commentary on human nature. Liberals, in thier unfathomable enlightenment, are noticeably the first to crucify those who vioce thier honest feelings regarding this and other provocative topics, and to resort to calling me names. Bravo! No one here is perfect, we are human, repleat with all the human frailties such as misplaced love and misplaced hate. Sure it would great if we could have this discussion as the diverse community that we make up together without resorting to strong prevocative language and name calling, but then, to do that we would have to have attained the level of godlike perfection that is withheld from us until we take our places in His kingdom.<br /><br />This thread should, in a perfect world, begin and end with opinion and perspective on the cogent aspects of the book and it's author. Fact and fiction regarding the existance of gays/lesbians in our society is another story and another thread all together. <br /><br />Linking the feelings people have regarding a topic of discussion to crime is also flawed. Looking at crime statistics, criminal behavior in general is not spawned by hate. Sure there is crime directed at gays/lesbians due to thier sexual orientation, but that is a very, VERY small percentage of crime in the US. I'm not saying that such crime is less sinifcant on it's face than murder, rape, burglery, DUI etc. It is certainly more tragic than, say....some guys growing a patch of marijuana, but lets keep things in perspective, no one is going to read this thread and go commit a crime against a gay person. <br /><br />It is not clearly substantiated how one persons feelings are the causitive factor in another person's criminal behavior. I see no one here engaged such activities as inciting riots or using this forum as an arena to gather like minded individuals together in an effort to form a subversive group such as the Arian Brotherhood, Black Panthers, Democratic National Commitee, Etc...<br /><br />When I found out about this book, I did some research about the content of the book, the author, his agenda etc., and I was (justifiably in my own opinion) outraged. <br /><br />This is about the undermining and humiliating attacks on Christianity, and the fact that there is no champion in the media for Christianity. There is an onslaught raging against God, Jesus and the Bible; not to mention those of us who study the Word and love our God. Those of us who work hard for our Lord and work hard for those who do not yet know Him are under attack and there are NO voices out there speaking up for us; because to do so would be non-inclusive and show lack of tolerance for those who are eroding the moral fabric of my beloved America, and the Jesus that died for my sins. This may make me a bad Christian, a bad person and a bad American, but I strongly disagree with the homosexual perversity that is infecting Christian doctrine (I welcome homosexuals in my church, my bible studies in my home etc.) This is about homosexuals CHANGING the basic doctrine of my Savior to suit themselves, and doing it within mainstream established Christian institutionalized churches. They are institutionalizing thier perversity into the Christian religion. I will no more stand for that than I would segregated schools, or government subsidised mass muder of unborn children (I couldn't help it, had to stick a troll in here somewhere for my good friends MW and PW

) <br /><br />For those who say that because Jesus didn't directly address the issue of homosexuality as a means of supporting thier blasphemous opinions, I offer the following: There are a lot of things Jesus is not recorded as saying during His short three year ministry. He did not restate mosaic law in it's entirety. In the three years He worked to establish the new doctrine of salvation by faith in His grace, train ministers, prove His own diety, and construct the foundation of a new religion which would survive repeated attempts at it's destruction while growing and thriving for another two thousand years, he did not restate God's stance on whether homosexuality is sin. He did however speak on topics where the new doctrine was not the same as mosaic law, ie divorce.