stuck steering 40hp johnson

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ok, when i unscrew the fuaset like clamp of the cable houseing i can pull it about about,,,,id say a fooot or two, then it come sot a stop, i picture the wire or rod like a tc antenna where one piece fgoes into the other untill u pull it out all the way, i hit the port side rod (it has a hole at the end where the linngage screw to the motor goes, its about 1 inch coming out, but it wont move, it does turn like i said

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

can i see a rod on port? am i supose to be hiting it from port side or starboard side, ive hit it from port side cause its almost out i assume

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

if u want give me ur emial an ill email u the picture, i have to go to lunch now

 

[rickdb1boat]

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exodus8 <br /><br />Send me the picture and I will post it.<br /><br />rickdb1@earthlink.net

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

thanks rick picture sent, thanks for all ur help guys . be back in 30 minutes

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Sry about the port stbd screwups, thatd twice Ive gone dyslexic this thread. All sounds norml, you can rotate but the spring back is from the twisting of the cable. Id try penetrant overnight from the stbd side, also jack up the r side of the trailer so the penetrant will pool in the tube. Does that make sense? If you can pull the rod from stbd to port, you have the option of hacksawing the cable on the stbd side, and pulling it through from stbd to port. Before doing that though I would try to unhook the cable at the steering console to see if it could be pulled through without ruining the cable.

 

[rickdb1boat]

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[SCO]

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do you get any movement of the rod at all either from stbd to port or port to stbd, and if so, how much in inches?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

The diagram confirms that it is the rod that is stuck and not the cable. Mine stuck in the same place. I recommend that you scribe a mark on the rod on the port side and see if you make any progress at all when you tap port to stbd(1/8 inch is good progress). Let it sit overnight with penetrant then tap test again, tapping hard but not so hard as to deform anything. Get back to us and tell us what you find then we go from there .

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

thanks for all ur help guys, i guess ill try the little bit at a time gig with the penetrating fluid, the suggestion about jacking up the r side is a great idea, ill do that when i get home. ill also scribe a mark to see if i get any progress.<br />so is the steering cable how i assume it is , like a TV antenna where a smaller diameter rod goes into a larger diameter rod (or cable) because wen i pull on the cable on the starboard side, it come sout about 2 ft an then it stops, im assuming thats where the cable is extended at its maximum. right?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

May have a communication problem here. The cable itself should not move in or out of the tilt tube since it is attached directly to the stuck steering rod you are hammering, but will flex in the boat. The cable casing is what moves. That cable casing is the part that has the faucet like nut attached to it. It is simply a cable in a tube(casing)

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

theres a problem then, the cable moves with the cable housing,,,,i pull it an when it reaches the 2 ft mark i feet it come to a brute stop, just picture urself holding a tv antenna while its short, u pull it an when it comes out all the way it stops coming out, thats what the cable seems to be doing, it seems like the cable housing an the cable are together

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

thanks for all ur help guys, i guess ill try the little bit at a time gig with the penetrating fluid, the suggestion about jacking up the r side is a great idea, ill do that when i get home. ill also scribe a mark to see if i get any progress.<br />so is the steering cable how i assume it is , like a TV antenna where a smaller diameter rod goes into a larger diameter rod (or cable) because wen i pull on the cable on the starboard side, it come sout about 2 ft an then it stops, im assuming thats where the cable is extended at its maximum. right?

That is correct. The rod is just a round piece of metal with a cable inside of it. The best thing you can do is stay patient and let the oil do it's work. If you can find a product called<br /> " PB Blaster ", it seems to work well. Other than going out every day and seeing if it will free up by using the famous BFH, there isn't much you can do other than try heating it up. A regular propane torch when used with Map gas would be the next step, but be carefull of the ends of the tilt tube when you heat it as there may be some plastic/rubber bushing and such, that will melt. Let us know how it goes and take it slow. It may take days for the oil to work it's way in there, so be patient.

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

theres a problem then, the cable moves with the cable housing,,,,i pull it an when it reaches the 2 ft mark i feet it come to a brute stop, just picture urself holding a tv antenna while its short, u pull it an when it comes out all the way it stops coming out, thats what the cable seems to be doing, it seems like the cable housing an the cable are together

It's entirly possible that the cable and casing are frozen up Also, in addition to the rod being stuck in the tilt tube. This would mean you will need to get a new steering cable from the helm to the motor. But it also means you can cut off the right(Starboard) side of the rod where it meets the cable, giving you the option of driving the rod out from the right side too. It may be that you will have to do this anyway, if it does not break loose hammering from the left.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

so the cable should slide freely inside the cable houseing? if thats the case (ill check to make sure) then ill just hack saw that thing an make work a lil easier for myself. i ratherspend the 200 to replace it then to have to go through this ordeal again in a year or socould it be posible to unloosen the cable from the cable housing using the penetrating fluid?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Will you test that exo, mark the cable on the stbd side right where it goes into the tilt tube and see if the inside cable itself moves without corresponding port side steering rod movement. Those two pieces should be firmly attached shouldn't they riki, else there would be play in the steering. If the cable to steering rod attachment is broken, a new cable is in order and you can get on with more destructive measures. Do you see it this way riki?

 

[exodus8]

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if i do decide to cut it, do u recomend i cut it close to the motor or pull the cable as far as i can an cut it long so i have more to hammer or pull from the starboard side?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

if cable is stuck, get a new cable Id say.

 

[rickdb1boat]

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I would too!! Will make it alot easier to remove the steering rod. Let us know how it's going..

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ill check but im 90 pecent sure its how i say, thats y i was so consused becuase the starboard side would move in an out, but the port side thats out 1 inch wouldnt budge, only when i pull the cable on the starboard side about 2 feet doe sit come to a stop, now im starting to thing that the cable is broken, an maybe if i cut it on the starboard side it will come out real easy, but that lil 1 in ch part of it thats on the port side will still be stuck there. HOWEVER i amlost think i remember that the diameter on the port side was thicker than the diameter on the starboard, that where my tv antenna philosophy came from