Glen-L 21' Canyon Cruiser - Aluminum

djpeters

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I was watching your build and admiring your attention to detail. I'm a little disappointed I won't get to see the rest of it, BUT, 3 years is a lot of time to put into something like that. Congrats on the new boat!
 

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Hey lakeorbay, how ya been. I just had a look at your thread and left a reply you're probably not going to like. I didn't like writing it but I think it's the facts. Like I said in that reply, if you really want to try to save your find you're welcome to bring it by after the weather clears. I can tell you for sure if it's a go or no go. If it's fixable, I'll weld it up for you.
 

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I was watching your build and admiring your attention to detail. I'm a little disappointed I won't get to see the rest of it, BUT, 3 years is a lot of time to put into something like that. Congrats on the new boat!

Thanks Dave, sorry to dissapoint you.
 

lakeorbay

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I appreciate your honest opinion, that why I posted. I pretty much made up my mind. It's off to the scrap yard. I would like for someone with a better eye for that sort of thing to take a look at it before I scrap it. So when the weather is better, I would like to take up that offer.
 

Luhrs28

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Good decision. You shortened your delivery time from 3 years to 1 month! Plus you became truly expert at aluminum fabrication on the Canyon Cruiser frames so it's not like it was a waste of time. I bet you'll find little custom doo-dads you want to add to the Jetcraft, which will be a piece of cake with your skills.
 

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I appreciate your honest opinion, that why I posted. I pretty much made up my mind. It's off to the scrap yard. I would like for someone with a better eye for that sort of thing to take a look at it before I scrap it. So when the weather is better, I would like to take up that offer.

You got it buddy.
 

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Good decision. You shortened your delivery time from 3 years to 1 month! Plus you became truly expert at aluminum fabrication on the Canyon Cruiser frames so it's not like it was a waste of time. I bet you'll find little custom doo-dads you want to add to the Jetcraft, which will be a piece of cake with your skills.

Thanks, I've decided that owning a boat in this economy is insane. However, not owning a boat makes me insane.. I guess that only makes me half nuts.. LOL
 

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Good decision. You shortened your delivery time from 3 years to 1 month! Plus you became truly expert at aluminum fabrication on the Canyon Cruiser frames so it's not like it was a waste of time. I bet you'll find little custom doo-dads you want to add to the Jetcraft, which will be a piece of cake with your skills.

Yes, I'm sure there will be a few things I'll want to do to it. This is considered and entry level boat for Jetcraft so they pretty much leave all the fancy stuff off. I call it my late in life level boat where I finally wake up and realize I don't need all that extra stuff.
 

Huron Angler

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Thanks, I've decided that owning a boat in this economy is insane. However, not owning a boat makes me insane.. I guess that only makes me half nuts.. LOL

LOL...I like your logic:D

That Jetcraft is built like a tank, should be a great boat for ya! As mentioned, the welding knowledge alone made it worth the time, not sure how much $$ you had into it but not a total loss. Thanks for sharing the info, great stuff.

Looking forward to seeing the new rig, and what you do to make it your own.
 

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Wow Steve, Suddenly the Canyon Cruiser is no more. I must have blinked! :(

But love the new Jetcraft, what a neat looking tinny! It'll fly with that 60 Merc on it. Looking forward to the splash video! :D

TII
 

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Everyone, I thought I'd put up one last knowledge post on this subject and share a few things that might help anyone attempting this in the future. Here's my top ten tips.

1. Make sure you have a least twice the size of the boat for your workspace. That will be self explanatory if you don't.
2. Spend the extra money for CAD plans vs. paper plans. Having all of your materials cut for you means everything fits right. It's no fun finding out a frame is out of whack when you're laying the keel.
3. If you build the boat upside down on a form, make that form out of steel. Wood changes with the weather and your form needs to remain straight and true no matter what.
4. If you can, build the boat right side up in a form. This might sound harder but it's acutally a lot easier.
5.There is a company in Washington state that sells boats as kits if you can afford it, this is the way to go. It comes complete with the forms for building it rightside up. The downside is that you have to pay a lot more to get started.
6. MIG or TIG .. With the new pulse MIG welders building these boats would be a snap but TIG is the strongest and the most controlable. It's a toss up but you should choose one or the other if you want to stay in budget.
7. Power, go with an outboard and you'll save yourself a ton of money and work. Inboards are historically trouble free and you can save money with a used engine and pump or out drive but think about it, you're building a brand new boat, do you really want to stick a rebuild in it?
8. Lock in your costs if you can. Try to buy all your materials at one time so you know what the cost will be. You can always take delivery at a later date.
9. Don't over do it. Stick to a planned work schedule and don't get so involved that you start neglecting things.
10. If it stops being fun, it's over.. don't think that you'll get back to it because you'll just hate it from that day on.

#1 and #8 resulted in #10 for me.
 

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I was wondering what the exact moment or causation was that made you finally say F this thing.
 

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I was wondering what the exact moment or causation was that made you finally say F this thing.
Yeah, it was actually kind of a combination of that, the flooded garage, not having a boat to go fishing and probably a little depression from all this flipping rain we've been having.
 

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I tore down the Canyon Cruiser and will sell it off as scrap.

I was out of town for a week and came home to discover this news. Great decision for you but the fish may not like it. Enjoy!
 

Deadwood

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This is close to what it looks like. Mine will have the Merc 4 stroke and no paint. I'm going to have it painted to match my truck.

The aluminum by itself looks pretty sweet. Are you gonna go all pewter (is that the right shade?) or leave some shiny stuff?
 

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The aluminum by itself looks pretty sweet. Are you gonna go all pewter (is that the right shade?) or leave some shiny stuff?

Actually, no paint required. I got talked into going with vinyl matched to the truck exactly. Not sure how they do it but they say they use the paint code and pull it off. Anyway, Jetcraft does it at the factory and it's about 8" wide at the stern tapering to the bow. The rest is shiny tin with a coat of sharks hyde to keep it that way. Above deck is white/gray zolatone as well as the interior. The shear caps are all diamond plate on the 2011's. The one in the pic I posted is a 2010.
 

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Been a while since I updated you all... I have a delivery date now.. May 12th the new boat arrives at the dealer and I'll pick it up on the 14th. I've been anxious to order the Merc Pro-Kicker, Minn-Kota Terrova with i-pilot and the Lowance HDS7 GPS/Fishfinder. Somehow I've managed to not pull that trigger and jynx the whole thing. Looks like I'll have about 30,000.00 in it when it's all said and done.

I scrapped out all the non salvageable aluminum and got 1.25 a pound. I had just under 400lbs. I sold the plasma cutter for the same price that I bought it for and I made 100.00 on the Mig Welder. I still have the spool gun and gun adapter. Nobody wanted it as a complete set. I sold the two tanks of Argon that I owned also.

I'm keeping the TIG welder and all that goes with it. I also have quite a bit of scrap aluminum sheet in 1/4 and 3/16 that I've kept just so I have some. There's one guy that keeps comming by for a few pieces here and there so eventually it will all be gone. I also have about 150' of 1-1/2"x 3/16 T-Bar that I have no idea what I'll ever do with.

The Garage is all cleaned up now and my shop is reorganized. I had all the relatives over for Easter and with all the spare time I have now, my yard and garden are really benefiting. I actually realized how much I missed doing that stuff once I got back into it. It's been 5 years of working on one boat project or another all year round. Can you say OCD... LOL....

I'll post pics of the new boat as soon as I get it home and then I'll post pic's about installing the various rigging I have to do. That should help somebody I would think. I think I can do most of it blind folded by now. HA...

Until then, you all have a good one.
 

Huron Angler

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Sounds like a good plan...that should be a great fishing rig:)

You will be able to pilot the boat blindfolded too...with the gps Minn Kota steering:D
 

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Have you seen it? Just wondering how that paint job turned out?
 
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